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Emergency Review scheduled for Thursday- help-have nothing planned!

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BethNoireNewNameForPeachy · 09/02/2010 16:29

Have posted on TTR also.

have requested ER as all the TA's bar one have been maderedundant,meaning each child gets only bare minimum now (as confirmed by many playground tears and chats) and things such as social support etc allpulled.

Sotensibly the ER is to sort out lunchtime support- ds1 is aggressiveat this sort of time and there is none, except a sort of self imposed exclusion zone for SN kids- no chance todevelop socialskills in a supported (oreven safe) environment.

What to expect,please? And what would the fighter Mums ask for?I usually goin all blazing and acquiesce to first offer of 23 seconds.That won't do thsi time,ds1 is suffering severe stress, eczma,awaiting results of tests but probably psychosomatic fainting fits (either that or serious illnes so hope so).... punching DH.....all since the TA redundancies.

School claiming absolute poverty, no idea why as well funded by LEA and Church but there you go.

Usually would get SNAp in but no time. What to do? Where to start? How do I stop him being unsupervised and getting angry kids and parents telling me about latest atrocity?

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TotalChaos · 09/02/2010 16:35

is there anything in his statement about need for social support as starting point?

I would be inclined to start bandying around phrases like duty of care - i.e. that you might consider suing the LEA if DS continues to deteriorate stress wise or that another parent might sue if there is a serious incident and their kid gets hurt.

BethNoireNewNameForPeachy · 09/02/2010 16:37

I remember using the threat to sue in the original application for a statement,yes- good one.

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anonandlikeit · 09/02/2010 16:43

Second TC, the school have a duty of care to Safeguard every child.
If their lack of support is causing your child stress/harm then they are failing him, they are also failing the other children if this is causing incidents where other chikdren are coming to harm.

What does statement & IEP say, is reduction is support recusing his access to the curriculum & remember social & emotional wellbeing IS part of the national curriculum.

Can you make a note of incidents when the lack of support has had a direct effect.
It could be good to quote or refer to specifics rather than purely a broad generalisation

BethNoireNewNameForPeachy · 09/02/2010 17:11

definiteltAaffecting social supprt etc,hard to ascertain ther est- not very awareour ds1 LOL!
'Yeah Iam best at everything'is about as close aswe get

his statement sys 10 hours small group support, which was neverenough but school put in loads extra- nw head not keen though,statement ahs said that since he was 6 (now 10).

DS1 is writing a letter saying what is causing himstress- constant changes on a whim by head being one.

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TotalChaos · 10/02/2010 12:48

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daisy5678 · 10/02/2010 18:06

SOOOO glad they're doing a meeting. Sorry missed this before. As you know, J had a crap Statement when he entered school and it took a while to get it changed but did eventually happen.

The only 2 things that helped J get his full-time Statement hours, even when school were in total agreement post-emergency review - were 1) letter from MP - the letters from school, psych and me were ignored by the panel

  1. full list of 'incidents' by J - biting, kicking, storming off, being disruptive etc. etc. I had to compile this, using the home-school book (not sure if you have one!) plus particularly juicy quotes from the book (you could use incident reports if there is no book)

I know you've got the get the school on-side first. I would ask for everything ds needs plus a bit more so there's room for the LA to refuse a bit and still feel in charge. Just state the facts: he needs full-time support for his own and others' safety and for his mental health. Those phrases are pretty powerful and you also want to ask for social skills groups/ ASD support sessions etc. etc. to help ds manage his feelings.

It kind of depends on how Statements are funded near you. If school funds everything up to a certain limit, they'll not want an increase in hours BUT if you're asking for over that limit, they should be more supportive.

But you have to stick to your guns. This is not fair on ds or you or the family and they are causing him distress by not supporting him properly.

The meeting should end up with the school accepting and passing on the recommendation for full-time hours and passing that on to the LA. They should consider it and get back to you ASAP. If they don't make any changes, you can't appeal about that, but then start making noises about applying for a re-assessment (like starting statutory assessment all over again - they won't want to at all) as current statement does not meet his needs as support on all levels is inadequate.

YOU CAN DO IT! You know that you're in the right and that it is possible - just hope it goes well. xx

BethNoireNewNameForPeachy · 10/02/2010 18:19

I've never sen an incident report and as inceidents ahppen at lunchtime they don't get documemted (yes I know) however I was in this pm and a totall of 5 children askedme for help with ds1 and anbotherwarned me he was arranging for people to target ds2.

I met another child who had been thumped so hard by a different child that she had a dressing on her head but nothing had been done.

I've come to the conclusion the place is a liability.

We ahd ds1'stests abck today and he is anaemixc which explainscertain things atm- such as falling asleep at school and the fainting we thoughtb was panic attacks. they said mroe tests in siix weeks but as the fainting / dizziness has worsened since then sowe're asking foranother appt: there's afamily history of leukaemia(panicking I know but scared nonetheless) and also we'vewondered about Coeliac before,both can be linked.

Anyway.

What we areasking for isn't FT 1-1 as they will just move him to a SNU and nonew of the OK ones have junior places,we'reasking for supervision at lunchtimesand also forsocial skills training on top of existing support hours. there is no provision for that atm.

Am exhausted from today and not going into it in right frame of mind, the TA's have been wishing me luck though.

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daisy5678 · 10/02/2010 19:03

But ask for more, even if you just want lunchtime. I had it explained recently to me that the LEA expect everything they read to be exaggerated so halve it so to have a chance of lunchtime support, it needs to be over-requested. Fucked up, yes, but unfortunately true.

lou031205 · 10/02/2010 19:10

SENDIST Decision Does this help?

lou031205 · 10/02/2010 19:12

Sorry, didn't make it clear - it relates to lunch time being part of education, so you would be arguing that ds1 needs support at that point to learn social skills.

Phoenix4725 · 10/02/2010 19:41

good luck for tomorrow

daisy5678 · 10/02/2010 21:47

Yes, good luck.

BethNoireNewNameForPeachy · 11/02/2010 12:25

Thanks all

went so-so but we learned a lot.

It's going to be looked at, but first we have to have another meeting as guess what?School had NO paperwork,they haven'tevena sked anyone for advice. So they are going to get that together, ask ansd ASD specialist (SENCO didnt seem to have any faith) and do atwoweek behaviour study.

Have agree frosocialskillsprovision to coem out ofexisting time,asa 'leeway' IYSWIM (thanks for that GMS)-apaprenlty its all been dropped becuase the (I quote 'religious nut') new head thinks thrice weekly formalworship is the same thing.

It'snot as if I'd not be teaching that anyway is it? They know about my degree as I used it as evidence in my CRB check!.SoWe'reasking for him to be pulled fromthat forsocialskills, but Head may well sayno so they have a back up plan.

We ahdds1'saswell-seems he just scraped the dyspraxiatests but not enough for them to get funding, Head refused any money forequipment such as a move n sit cushion so DH and I are ordering it for them,we'rebuying ds3's SNU one anyway.We'reging to look at the dyscovery centrefords2 when we have the money (although we got home to a letter saying DH ahs been awarded £300 by his college as reciognition ofwork done so that's 1/3p aid).

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TotalChaos · 11/02/2010 13:33

It's a start, hope that school are better prepared over next few weeks. ! at worship = social skills training. We did get the occasional lecture at my religious primary school about kindness to others/not gossping, but these had bog all difference on behaviour and bullying IME.

BethNoireNewNameForPeachy · 11/02/2010 13:51

they do formal worship X3 a week,1 is about social stuff, I think the rest she means 'God willhelpyou if you pray enough and sit still'. I genuinely get that feling.

Good job God will help, becuase if they veto allt he SN equipment nobody else will!

The LEAlady set out forthemwhat they need and I thought all was in hand, but as Ileft she turned andsaid 'he seemsvery eloquent andbright tome'- am hoping that she didn'tfall for his 'peopleannoy me it's them not me'spiel,which we did try towarn her about but rarely sinks in untilyou witness the berserker child for yourself.

We did make final our decision to send ds4 elsewhere, even if means along walk every day up a steep hill. That Head just isn't working well.

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