ODD, anyone got any advice

[jubee]

Have had meeting at sons school today. he goes to SLD school. has been having 'anger' issues the last few months. staff concerned with their and other childrens safety which is understandable. they seem to think ODD a posibility. he has limited speech, global developmental delay, severe learning difficulties and epilepsy. he is very active and now at age 11 very strong and difficult to handle at times, sometimes there is no reasoning or bribing him. regularly hits and kicks us at home, throws anything he can get his hands on when he is is a rage. wondered if anyone could advise me on how to get a diagnosis and if anyone has similar experiences.

Hi for odd you need to be seen by camhs your paedatrician needs to refer you..

My 6 yr old is suspected odd he is very very defiant, also has a lot of dangerous behaviour which he finds hilarious,

We have had to buy him special needs harness to keep him out of danger and he has managed to break my brothers wrist because he wouldnt stop drop weighting himself on my brothers arm when told no as he doesnt respond to no at all.

If we tell him something is blue he will argue with us it is black even tho he knows his colours he just likes to argue when he can.

Hope you get help soon xx

thanks janmumto5. have left message with paed today. shes great so will get ball rolling asap. dont mean to be thick but what is camhs. know the arguing thing well. had argument in Tesco on sunday beacuse he wanted a cd and i said no, would not stop going on and he just got louder and louder and would not move from the cd aisle. had to abandon trolley and drag him out of tescos. also when i say no wants to know why all the time. cant speak well at all but can say No and why really well - why do they learn those words first !!!

jubee, CAMHS = Child and Adolescent Mental Health Service.

jan, our 6 year olds unfortunately seem to have a lot in common

thanks ouryve

Hi Jubee. My son is 10 with mod/sevLD and ADHD. The word NO is like a red rag to a bull! And dispite his limited speech he will try to argue/push/ cry to get his desires met. He seems to get stuck in a compulsive rut!Fortunatly for us he is getting less deliberatly agressive with maturity ( he responds to sanctions but takes lots of repeated offences to remember in time)- but he can be rough when upset and we do get hurt.
Ds has a Dx of ASD and I think some of his difficulty is his extreme egocentricity - he only sees what he wants (and what he wants right that moment is so urgently important to him like nothing else on earth and he cannot distract himself!)- he cannot take others needs into account because he is not able to guess what they might be. He is routinely very oppositional but I think this is part of his autistic thinking. He has always been uncooperative and is not well motivated by praise!
When ds was assessed by CAHMS (at age 7) they immediatly said he has autism - although I had worried he may get a DX of ODD. I believe ODD is considered within the ASD spectrum now.

Magso, thanks for your message. ds is also on autistic spectrum so wonder if that is a factor too. he had really bad day at school friday, he totally lost control and couldnt regain control which resulted in him being restrained. its like if he gets to a certain point when he is angry he has to see it through to the end. i can sometimes see when he is starting to get angry and diffuse the situation by doing something competely different like making him laugh or turning the music up really loud which sometimes just seems to snap him out of it. school have trouble diffusing the situation obviously they cant do the same things i can at home. he had a good day today, he started to get angry so the teacher got someone to take him for a walk and then he was fine. Have to laugh - they asked me to send in some slippers for him to wear at school, their shins are getting a battering !!!