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thederkinsdame · 19/01/2010 22:03

We feel stuck betweena rock and a hard place at the moment. You may remember we posted late last year about DS going before the pre-school panel? The upshot is that they have asked an EP to assess him for the next meeting - this is happening in the next few weeks. My instinct is telling me that they will put him forward for a SA, as he is still having difficulties at m/s nursery (this is his second placement the first was an absolute disaster), even with 1:1 support and he is being physical with other children, disruptive and is struggling to join in, as well as being at risk of absconding. I have put forward reports from everyone involved with DS - OT (who says in writing that he needs a statement), independent autism expert, my own letter outlining our concerns etc etc. I have already spoken to the EP and outlined my concerns and said that we are looking for a placement at a unit as we don't think he'll cope m/s.

I know that the advice is to apply for a SA ourselves, but we are so close to getting the assessment etc, that I feel it will almost delay things IYSWIM. Also, I know that in our county, someone I know has just recieved a statement for her DS going this route. He is about the same as our DS in most respects, but without the physical element, so my gut instincts are telling me that we should allow this process to continue.

If EP does not put him forward for a SA, we presumably can then apply for one ourselves?

The reason we feel so conflicted is that we are up against it in terms of time, as DS is due to start school in Sept. However, all those involved in his case are saying to hold tight and let the process happen.

My main worry is that we will end up having to send him to a m/s school as the statement won't be through in time, then he'll eb excluded/expelled or we'll have to mess him about by moving him to the unit after a term or a year IYSWIM.

I'm not sure the above makes any sense - sorry if I am rambling! Any advice and thoughts gratefully received.

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thederkinsdame · 19/01/2010 22:46

anyone?

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lou031205 · 19/01/2010 22:58

When you write requesting SA, the LA have 6 weeks to consider your request. So you could write a letter requesting a SA, and add in that DS is due to be assessed by the EP in the next few weeks & you will forward the report when available.

lou031205 · 19/01/2010 23:00

SA is a formal process that is allotted 26 weeks, so I would really worry about delaying, especially as the LAs don't do stuff in August.

lou031205 · 19/01/2010 23:01

Sorry, just to add, 6 months from now is the beginning of the summer holidays. I'd be posting a letter tomorrow, tbh.

thederkinsdame · 19/01/2010 23:01

That's a good idea Lou - the only worry we have with that is that apparently, if we write in the PSP process will stop. I feel that we are at risk of stalling the process entirely, IYSWIM to potentialkly gain a couple of weeks (does that make sense?)

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lou031205 · 19/01/2010 23:04

But the PSP process is just a precursor to the Statementing process, isn't it? What you would be doing is starting the clock ticking. You have evidence of his difficulties, and they won't change overnight. An EP will need to assess in either situation.

thederkinsdame · 19/01/2010 23:33

I see what you mean. I thinm what I might do is let the EP assess him, then send the letter, so that we get the report. As I have been told we would have to wait for another EP assessment if we stop it now 9is this right?!). God, I find this all so tricky to unpick!

Thanks for the advice again Lou. You are a wise woman!

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/01/2010 09:44

I would try and speak to IPSEA and or SOS:SEN in the first instance.

EPs are also under pressure not to statement readily.

If they agree I would make the application for the Statutory assessment yourself, at least you know it has been done then. Also parents have the right of appeal if the LEA say no to assessment, other groups like schools for instance do not have this right.

Also you are running out of time, a Statement can take around 6 months to get fully up and running and that is also if you and the LEA agree to the content (so you are now looking at July which is the start of the summer holidays at the very earliest). Also SENDIST do not work in August

thederkinsdame · 20/01/2010 11:55

Attila - this is my worry (time scale I mean). I'm really panicking about it now. Ep is coming next week - do I get a copy of her report? If so, think I will hang on till she's been then put letter in, so that she still comes to do assessment IYSWIM.

God, I wish I was more bloody decisive.

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thederkinsdame · 22/01/2010 23:10

Thanks to all of you for advice. Since last posted, I've got some advcie from Ipsea too. So the plan is now to wait for EP assessment next week, asking for copy of her report, whacking letter in on Thurs. Wish us luck!

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overthebar · 26/01/2010 12:26

Thederkinsdame

It amy be worth noting that the report may take another couple of weeks to arrive. Mine took 5!

thederkinsdame · 26/01/2010 12:48

overthebar - bloody hell! see that's what I'm worrying about - we might be at PSP stage by that point, so if I do write I could delay things even more!

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magso · 26/01/2010 13:00

It could take a while to get the report. Presumably you will speak to the EP next week, which gives a chance also to discuss the urgency for school starting. Perhaps note down as much as you can. EP may be able to advise speediest option but be aware they may be constrained by LEA policy as at this point they are acting for their employer the LEA. Could try asking what EP would do if ds was their child?

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