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How do I help DS with toilet skills?

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Solo2 · 15/01/2010 14:19

DS (8 yr old one of twins, 'lightly touched with Asperger's') is v anxious about having an accident at school, as he usually has 5 to 6 poos a day, if he's at home. He seems to have either diarrhoea or constipation or sort of both, all the time.

He is completely phobic about using toilets for poos outside of home - though will 'go' if we're staying somewhere else as a 'home base'. So he holds it in all day at school and is desperate to get home. This is affecting his concentration at school and ruining family day trips out, as we have to come home as soon as he 'needs to go'.

He had a tunny bug last yr at school, resulting in major 'accident', fortunately at end of school day and I was able to shower him in boys toilets, fully dressed - We're talking, MAJOR/ everywhere including in his hair accident .

I think no other children found out but he's naturally paranoid that this might happen again.

So he's torn between needing to go, v v frequently (won't even break wind unless on toilet) but being unable to 'go' unless back at home. The school know about it and last yr even gave him special permission to use the private staff/visitor toilet but he's been far too self-conscious and embarassed to use this ever.

Finally, he's dyspraxic and finds it nigh on impossible to wipe himself and so, at home, I do this still. He's afraid of getting it on his hands or not wiping enough.

Over Xmas he and twin stayed away at friends for 2 nights (only my third break overnight in nearly 9 yrs - but only used to catch up on tax return ). When he came home, he smelled noticeably of poo and had 'skid marks' and needed a long bath/ wash. He'd clearly either overwiped and underwiped and also had awful soreness for days afterwards. At least he'd used their loo though.

He's heading for 9 yrs old in a few months and there'll be school trips away over several nights and maybe even sleepovers (not done this yet).

How do I help him - with personal hygience skills, with his phobia of other toilets, with his need to poo several times a day?

The only thing a GP has ever said, when I mentioned the constant pooing was, "Oh good. He's obviously got a good cleaning out system and we all differ in number of times we 'go'".

He's had 'something going on' with his bowels since birth (used to have massive, nappies, unformed BMs) but nothing ever diagnosed and no idea if it's food intolerances, allergies, eating too quickly without chewing, eating with mouth open and taking in lots of air, soemthing wrong with his bowel....dunno

Where do I go with this? Any shared experiences, ideas, suggestions please?

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sphil · 15/01/2010 14:35

Lots of poo-related experience here though not exactly as you describe - but I can relate to the phobia part as DS1 (8 and dyspraxic) was like this for a while when he was younger. Moist wipes rather than loo paper helped with the wiping/fear of germs issue. He also found wiping while sitting down easier than standing up.A friend of mine whose son has a similar problem to your DS found that changing his diet made a huge difference, but I'm not sure exactly what she did. I think she had an idea of what made it worse and she tried removing one possible offending food at a time for a week or two, noting any changes, then reintroducing it and noting changes again.

I feel for you (and him) - I'm sure you'll get more replies later as we're no strangers to poo on this board

zakmum · 15/01/2010 16:41

Hi,
my dd is 8yrs old has autism,ADHD,and Global delay.She used to do poo lots of times when she was younger,I change her diet into gluten free and milk free food. She only goes twice in a day now.Even if you replace his dinner with wheat free option even that might help.My dd's meals are mostly rice and potatoes based with meat or fish and vegetables.

wraith · 17/01/2010 02:20

while i cant help you with advice on this i can, sympathise with his tummy trouble as i have the same, it maybe caused by enviromental as well as dietary, if theres somethingcausing upset it can shift patterns rapidly

Solo2 · 17/01/2010 16:21

Thanks for the replies. DS is v picky about what foods he'll eat and in what orde/ subtypes/ combinations. Changing his diet would be hard, as he has certain things he MUST eat! But I've always thought he's rather intolerant of dairy and he generally doesn't like or eat much, including ice-cream (Never drinks cow milk), most cheese. But he LOVES pain au chocolat/ pastries/ choc. spread, will eat the veg. on his plate, in a certain order, not much fruit, plenty of rice, meat and fish....

Today, he's only had one poo so far - and I've no idea why so few, when the other day he had 7 poos!

I use wet wipes on him at home but out and about there's only dry paper available. He's worried about bodily noises, even though I'm v relaxed about this.

Sometimes he'll spend half an hr on the toilet and have 'gone' in lots of little bits...sorry this maybe too much info.!

I've offered rewards if he can poo in public toilet but he just can't. Next yr, he has a compulsaory school trip abroad for a long w/e and I've no idea how he'll cope...but at least we've still got a yr to 'practice'.

Any other ideas welcome [smile}

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