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Understanding questions-how do you help your DC?

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tiredmummyoftwo · 14/01/2010 07:34

Hi, some of you may remember DS (4.6) diagnosed ASD (we believe on the mild side, although dx classic), has come a long way with respect to behaviour, eating, sleeping and to some extent speech wise. He can pretty much talk about everything, i.e, describing a picture well, asking for food when he is hungry, can communicate his need, tells us if he feels sad. But it is still one sided, it's only what he wants, what he can tell, not what we ask him. Especially ee has severe delay with respect to questions, he has been able to answer questions like what is it, who is it, what colour is it or what are you doing since the age of 3, but it stayed the same. We have not been able to get him to anwer questions like'did you go to school today?' or 'what did you do at the school today?' He just does not seem to understand these type of questions. Any ideas from anybody?

How long did it take for your dc to answer these type of questions? When did they start having a conversation with you? How did it happen? DH always gets upset because he feels he can't have a conversation with his son. Please tell us that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

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moondog · 17/01/2010 09:28

Tired, look under Linglette or Lingle thrn as I have posted a lot on her threads too.

TotalChaos · 17/01/2010 09:42

MD - thinking about the list you posted in context with the Jean Gross thread - I wonder if it might go a little way to plugging the gap re:waiting lists, if concerned parents had easy access to detailed quality information like that in the run-up to getting to the top of the list, to help them help their child at home..... I did get a few leaflets from SALT dept but they were a bit basic, nowhere near as helpful as that list re:questions/receptive language.

backtolingle · 17/01/2010 15:30

Tiredmummyoftwo. Moondog set out the calendar principle in November 2008. You could search under "lingle" and "calendar" but it was a long and emotional thread. So instead I've cut moondog's key post from 28thNov. at 18.00 and am pasting it here below:

"With understanding the concept of time, I have found a simple calendar invaluable. I
like this one as the spaces for the days are nice and big
Organised Mum calendar

Here is what to do.

Start at the begining of a month. For about 3 weeks, simply get the child to cross off the relevant day of the month with a big cross from each corner of the box. Do it before bed and tell (sign and speech) them the day is finished.

They should start getting the idea of the page filling up (ie time passing).

You can then start putting in pictures depicting important future events (eg parties, swimming, cinema trip,Christmas) What is nifty about this calendar is that it comes with lots of little activity stickers. I also make my own from Widgit Writing with Symbols package or Google Images or digital photos or drawings. Keep it simple to begin with.

Gradually (it may take months, that's ok, important thing is to do it every day)the child will realise that the event is coming closer. Also good for left to right skills and counting (eg Our big thing is dh coming home from his work in Bangladesh so there is a picture of a plane about 4 weeks from now and every night we count. Same with Christmas.)

You can then start to ask the child what happened that day when they are crossing off the day at night. Whatever they come up with is fine (eg even just something like 'sandpit') Honour their contribution and draw a little picture (or find a suitable one) to put in the box for that day and then cross it out.Even if the child is not able to communicate something, you can pick out something important from theri day and put in a picture (eg for my kids today, it would be playing and putting make up on hideous Barbie heads at child minders.

You don't have to have a picture for every day . Sometimes a cross may be enough. Equally though, put in the box anything of importance (eg for us it may be a tag from a special treat box of cereal or cinema tickets or a photo of something we made.)

You can then add a simple code to denote school/non school days. Iuse a red sticky dot (buy sheets of them in WHSmith)and put it in top right hand corner of every box which denotes a non school day.

If they start writing, you can transition to that (although even if they do, everyone loves pictures.) Ihave done this every night for 4 years and my children love it. Dd often goes to bed with a stack of calendars and flicks through them, enjoying reflecting on past events (eg holidays, the time she was sick on her sohes, the night a fox ripped open the rubbish bags, the days we went to the cinema.)

I want everyone in the world to do this. "

Moondog also highly recommends a "Timetimer" which you can get from timetimer.com.

Moondog also writes often about how visual aids are misunderstood and therefore either misused/used without being updated to reflect progress/abandoned. Reading the "Visual Aids" book should help you combat that for your child.

lastly, I have had great success dividing my kitchen clock into segments and colour-coding them to show morning, afternoon and evening. Search lingle or linglette +clock (apparently an IKEA clock for £1.99 works well for this.....)

tiredmummyoftwo · 17/01/2010 16:10

Thanks Lingle, you have given me so many ideas. I think, I will get some pictures and things ready for the calender to start it in February. The books won't arrive for a couple of months yet, getting things here in U.A.E is a nightmare, but there is no place in the world without an IKEA, so that's where I am heading tomorrow morning after school drop of.

I had a look at timetimer.com previously when the previous thread was running. I was not sure actually how to use it or if DS will understand it, but your idea of dividing the clock into segments and colour coding them is so brilliant that I am starting from tomorrow (we have no clock in the house as I hate the noise it makes and it wakes me up middle of the night with it's tik tok sound).

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moondog · 17/01/2010 19:33

Thanks Lingle!

Tired, this should keep you busy for a bit.

backtolingle · 17/01/2010 19:45

we used the timetimer as follows in the early days

Me: "First the red has to go away, then we're going to school".

So you can use it once he's grasped the "first/then" concept.

You have to stick to neutral events at first rather than longed for events/delayed gratification stuff so the child doesn't see the timetimer as a bad thing that's delaying sweeties. But later you can do "first the red has to go away, then we can go to the sweetie shop". And suddenly life gets a whole lot easier.....

backtolingle · 17/01/2010 19:52

re IKEA clock I suggest you buy two, remove everyone but the hour hand from the first one and see if it still works. Ideally you want a clock with just one hand. Definitely remove any second hand.

tiredmummyoftwo · 23/01/2010 16:38

Hello all, started DS on the clock this weekend, he showed no interest whatsoever. I showed it to him anyway explaining what the different colours mean, Dh has kindly written on the clock as well (we are pretty convinced he can read if he wants to). So lets see what he does tomorrow morning.

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moondog · 23/01/2010 19:32

Gosh, these things don't all fall into place in a day! You need patience and tenacity. My most important piece of advice would be to give something a proper go instead of discarding it. When I say a proper go, I mean months. It took a year, a year before my dd grasped the calendar.I still did it faithfully every day in the face of what seemed like little interest or understanding.What was there to lose? Nothing.It took 5 minutes a day at the most.

I deal with a lot of people who say
'We've tried everything and nothing works!'

My answer is 'That is the core of the problem-you chopping and changing.'

Why should the child take note?He knows that the system will be gone/forgotten/ignored in a few days.

Sorry to sound harsh but first and foremost you need to learn to help your child yyourself.

TotalChaos · 23/01/2010 20:03

agree with MD. IME sometimes things take absolutely months and months to click, if not longer. and conversely you may find certain aspects around language come to your child fairly readily.

tiredmummyoftwo · 24/01/2010 05:24

Moondog, I wasn't thinking about giving up, in fact, I did not expect anything else. DS knows when we are trying to teach him something and he screams everytime we try something new, but he gets used to it. This morning in the car I showed him the clock again and explained at 12pm when the morning finishes, I will pick him up from school. He did not say anything, but he listened quietly which is a start. Dh and I don't believe in 'we have tried everything and nothing worked', there is always a way and we are determined to help our son overcome his difficulties. You all have given me such good advice and I intend to follow them religiously. I was just updating you on his first reaction.

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moondog · 25/01/2010 00:13

Ah ok, I didn't think you sounded like the kind of person who would give up easily but hey, just wanted to be sure.
A lot of people make all the right noises but don't follow through. You obviously aren't one of them.
Keep us updated!

tiredmummyoftwo · 04/02/2010 07:12

Hello all again. Just thought let you know that DS loves crossing off the calender every night and this is going to be his first weekend after we started it. We started it on Sunday since that's the first day of the week here. So far yesterday he told us he ate a banana at school when we recalled the day. Great start!!!! Still waiting for time timer and books.

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