Backdating an IEP

[debs40]

As I know have a copy of my son's IEP which was shown to me for the first time in late Oct, I have noticed that there are entries on the 'fornightly review' sections for September.

Yet, the IEP is dated October and I was told when I asked at the meeting in October that it had been drawn up for it.

Sfter receiving it, I asked one of his teachers when it was drawn up and she said 'September I think' yet she was the one who told me it had been done for the Oct meeting. As I say it is dated Oct.

Now, there is little point in taking issue with this but why, why, why would you backdate an IEP and lie to a parent about it??

I should add that the Sept entries were not there when I was shown it in Oct.

Sorry about terrible typos etc.....

Sorry, can I just ask if you think I should make an issue of this or leave it?

Morning Debs, I think you are more concerned with the content of the IEP (from what you said before) I would focus on that.

I know that was my first reaction but now, thinking long ball game, I'm wondering whether I should at least question whether the provision they've entered in back dated form was actually ever offered.

I just don't want them saying 'we've done x, y or z' when they haven't.

Eeven now DS has a target to undertake his 'morning routine' alone. They did nothing to help with this and they haven't even entered a strategy for it on the IEP. I drew up a schedule and stood outside the class with it. They said they would use it, and get it laminated.

That was three weeks ago and DS said last night he has never seen it.

The morning routine issue is a load of rubbish but it does mean that he won't get his homework marked or book changed if he deosn' master it and so I see help with it as a reasonable accomodation to help him access the education everyone else is getting.

Yes it wont be long to January and then you an be fully prepared as to what targets you want. I wouldn't push the school on the date of this IEP as the most important thing is that you need their support and you won't get that if they feel you are picking hairs (not that you are because we understand how important this is to you) as thats the way they will see it. Concentrate on what your childs needs and not on "mistakes" diliberate or not that may have been made.

I know you are right. But I feel they are constantly pretending that they are doing stuff that they are not.

If you end up applying for a statement and they say we did all this lovely stuff and it's working, then it does sort of undermine your case if you say well you didn't do it but I didn't mention it at the time as I didn't want to upset you

I just feel I'm constantly worried about not upsetting people and smoothing ruffled feathers. Yet, I then find out the most basic thing is not being done.

Hi Debs,

Sorry to read you're still going through the wringer on this.

This is why the IEP is known on here as the "Individual empty promise". You won't really get anywhere with this school and their IEP (which they likely have not been able to fulfill anyway due to lack of resources. They will of course not tell you this).

I would fully concentrate your energies now on writing to the LEA asking for your DS to be statutorily assessed.

"If you end up applying for a statement and they say we did all this lovely stuff and it's working, then it does sort of undermine your case if you say well you didn't do it but I didn't mention it at the time as I didn't want to upset you"

The people who make the decision whether to assess or otherwise are the LEA bods. School have no part in that decision making.
Actually an IEP does not have to be in place at all in order to apply for a Statement nor do they have to be on either SA or SA plus for a period of time before applying. You have more than enough evidence to show that this IEP of theirs is not working for a whole variety of reasons. You have tried to help them and they don't really want to know.

His needs are not being met currently by this school. I honestly don't think they know what to do with him and his IEP is a fudge.

When you next have an IEP meeting you can say all this as the targets have to be evaluated before new ones are put in place.
Schools vary so much in how good they are with children with SEN. The way league tables are at the moment works against children that have SEN because no matter how many children a school has with SEN they still have to achieve a certain score.
So if a school is very academically driven even if a child with SEN is academic schools will not really want to give time to a SEN issue as it is the results that matter to them. The government is/was (if they are still here next year) going to trail a new passport report for schools and are going to include how a school includes a child with SEN in this but this make take years yet to role out.

Attila you are dead right. I know you are. It's a question of whether to stay and fight or go elsewhere.

They are academically driven wasuup3000 and I had wondered whether that was why they didn't want to know about the SEN stuff. DS is doing well academically and they just don't understand this issue at all.

As soon as he is settled for 5 mins, they're like 'job done' he's fine.

I'm off to see the Head of the ASD assessment service now to hopefully get an idea of how long before he gets seen. I'm not sure that even a label will help them do what they should be doing if there's no will to assist.

No if school can't see the problem then even with a label they will not help your child.

wasuup thanks for posting on other thread. I really appreciated the comments. I think doing something constructive like rearranging their crap IEP really helps

Thanks really pleased that I have helped. I think just having someone that can see where you are coming from and can support really does help give you that extra bit of strength doesn't it. Other people have helped me so its good to be able to give something back to someone else too.

Debs, just a thought when i drafted my version of the IEP, i also asked for any inaccuracies to be amended in my covering letter, even if they dont change them, i have a record of it. I do think it is important to keep a record, even if you just log the conversation you had.

For example the school had written in ds's IEP ?X does not appear to realise he needs to go to the toilet until it is too late, resulting in him soiling himself at times. As far as we are aware, this problem has not yet arisen in school?.

I wrote 'The problem would not have arisen in school because X will not ask for help when the problem does arise, that is the problem. You are aware of the problem arising in school as I have told you several times that X returns home with soiled trousers; you are also aware that X is awaiting an appointment at an incontinence service. I find the wording of this comment, very misleading and would like this removed or amended.