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joburg · 18/11/2009 13:04

Me and DD (6 1/2) were playing today with rhyming words. They have been learning about it for the last 2 weeks in school, we did homeworks all this time etc. Still she can't understand the rhyming rule. so i tried to invent words for her like miki and riki, wohoo and bohuu but nothing worked. She seemes very focused, looks at me, tries to think and then says miki rhymes with meat.
I do remeber it took her like 6 months to learn a few basic colors names. It took her a whole year to understand that M and A should be read MA .... DD doesn't even needed me showing how to use the water tap to combine hot and cold water, but when it comes to abstract things she just doesn't get it.

What can this be? Why? What goes wrong in her way of understanding these abstract things?

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mysonben · 18/11/2009 13:34

My DS is 4, asd, he has great difficulties with abstract things things and ideas like time concepts for instance, or trying to talk about something he did a few hours ago or stuff that hasn't happened yet.
He still cannot recognise his colours consistantly, he sometimes get one right but if asked again 3 mins later he will get it wrong again, despite lots of input from nursery and home.
Same with letters in his name he cannot remember the 3 letters that makes his name.
He also has trouble with abstarct words such as 'under' or 'behind'...
But he can turn the pc on and log on my settings to watch train .pictures i save don a file for him, no problems with putting tv and dvd on by himself, and he can recognise numbers to 20.

Abstarcts concepts are just harder to master as it isn't a visual thing so there are no visual cues to help i suppose iyswim?

joburg · 18/11/2009 13:48

the only difference is that DD is soon gonna be SEVEN! She is in year 1. She is working with all these concepts in school, every day. I wouldn't have been worried about colors at 4 but DD was 5, then still 5 and a half, when she couldn't just learn them ....

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mysonben · 18/11/2009 14:04

Of course, your DD is older, and i understand your concerns when it takes a long time for her to understand such concepts. But i was only giving you my experience of this based on my DS who is indeed younger, still abstracts things of all levels are a difficult thing for some children to 'get'.
What is your dd dx? or suspected dx...?

joburg · 18/11/2009 14:08

thank you Mysonben, DD might, and i emphasize MIGHT be dx with adhd, delayed speech, sensory integration issues (i had another post abt it where i explained that we went through 4, or was it 5, different assesments and nothing is clear yet, ouch, grrrr, mrrrrr, anger and frustration ) thus my reason to try to investigate as much as i can on my own

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joburg · 18/11/2009 14:18

... oh, and possible learning difficulties, (and JUST a 'possible' dx of all these, after we had to drive weekend after weekend to another city to get the assesment, paiyed full fees - we live abroad, nothing covered by the ensurance) and still we have nothing sure yet. But that's another story. Just to explain whay i am on my own trying to figure it out what is happening to my DD.

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mysonben · 18/11/2009 14:33

Yes i remember your previous post now, where you talked about the differents clinics that assessed your DD and gave several dx.
I can understand your frustration and worries. and different countries have very different ways for dx, even more different levels of help and support are given , sometimes good sometimes not....it's not easy.
Tbh even here in the uk dx procedures varie greatly and some people are so fed up with been pushed around and tired of waiting lists that they end up having to pay and go private, levels of help , support, advice,...varies also a lot depending on your area, the agencies involved,...

It shouldn't be that way as it creates a lot of anguish for parents.

For your original post, someone with more experience than me (only quite 'new' to this you see {wink}) will come along with advice.

For the language side of things on your OP re: rythms /phonics,...maybe you could ask Moondog a few questions (she is a speech and lang. therapist)

Good luck.

joburg · 19/11/2009 15:24

I will definitely try to ask Moondog about a few tips regarding speech/language, thank u. But i think our problem is beyond that. It seems like DD can't understand the mechanism behind all these and that i would want to know what can it be (same thing with the colors, i don't think it was a language issue). is it neurological? or .... ? Anybody has any idea?

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joburg · 22/11/2009 09:59

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