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am going to try and get it all in one posting because i am sick of being accussed of drip feeding so while i have 5 minutes.....

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TheLadyEvenstar · 19/08/2009 21:47

bit of background first

ds1s father and i split when ds1 was 22m old. The relationship was not very good tbh it was total crud with him being manipulative, lying, violent, and controlling.
I raised ds1 alone until 2006 when i met dp.

However when ds1 was 3 his behaviour was not so good he would have raging tantrums, these worsened when he was 4 1/2 and had the MMR.

He is now 11 yrs old has been seen by drs, child psychologists, child psychiatrists, counsellors, learing mentor at school.

A typical day in our home (holiday time)

I will wake him up
he will have breakfast..this is when problems start...
I will ask him to wash and dress (if we are going out)
then the tantrums start and they escalate very quickly from him saying "its not fair" to "I hate you and wish you would put me in care/were dead"

I have tried many reward systems over the years and tbh i am at the point of screaming. I tried posting this on AIBU and basically have been told his behaviour is all my fault, i have emotionally damaged him, i bully him etc.

1 of the child psychologists diagnosed ODD but the one we are seeing now says no thats not the case.

We had a session the other day which was quite lengthy...3 hours to be exact. The CP spoke to ds1 for an hour or so and then ds1 and ds2 (23m) went into the bedroom to watch a film and play. Although i had been listening to ds1, the CP seems to have got inside his head and had some things to tell me.

He stated again that ODD is not what is wrong with ds1.
DS1 is fully aware of what he is doing
That to ds1 this is a game which he is actually having fun with.
He says basically ds1 enjoys having power over me, that his threats he makes - "Take me to see a psychiatrist and i will make them believe you beat me" are all to dominate me and make me back down into submission.
The same as when i was meant to go out and he said "If you go i will play up so dad calls you to come home"
I digress.
The CP believes that ds1 is far more aware than people are giving him credit for...like he is playing the fool whilst being very cunning. He also says DS1 needs to learn to take responsibility for his actions. He (ds) harps on about how hard his life is because he has to do a few chores
Load the dishwasher
bring his clothes to the machine
and clear up with ds2 when they have finished playing.

He is demanding £10 per month pocket money plus a daily payment of either 50p or a £1 i am "allowed" to make that choice.

He refuses to go to sleep, last night was awake until 1.30am and i cancelled a day out because of it.

sorry need to deal with ds2 be back soon.

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HelensMelons · 21/08/2009 20:24

Could your GP refer you for some cbt (cognitive behavioural counselling) - if so that might help you manage the overwhelming stress you are under at the moment.

The books mentioned sound like a really good start - would your ds engage with something like art therapy (he doesn't need to be good at art) - it would provide a safe place for him to explore anything that he needs to explore.

TheLadyEvenstar · 21/08/2009 20:45

TBH I am not sure, he wouldn't take part in the play therapy they tried a couple of years ago saying "Yes and you are going to watch what I do and decide if i am SN or not"

Although he does like art so maybe he would...

Am not sure whether GP will offer me anything other than referral to same clinic we are under already...But have an appt in 2 weeks (trust me that took long enough to get) so will ask then.

So how does art therapy work??? is it something we do or something we get a referral to go and do?? (sorry no idea)

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MamaMaiasaura · 21/08/2009 23:15

TLE - only reason I asked is because of the posts I have read from you over the few years and it was a question that i kept asking myself as you seem to avoid any personal need to address any issues that you may have in dealing with your ds and also yourself. YOu also seems to react quite agressively to any suggestions that may put some of the responsiblity for changing the situation on you.

The suggestion for cbt i think is a good suggestion and may help you. It doesnt mean you are a bad person it is just that with so much going on it might help to re-focus yourself and by working on any of your issues it will then ripple out and have a hopefully positive influence on those around you.

I am guessing my view will be totally disregarded but i am an optimist and hoping that it will be of some use.

THe other thread you said you reported it, can i ask why as i didnt see anything very offensive on there or did it become so after i last posted? If so, I am sorry that you had that happen.

HelensMelons · 21/08/2009 23:51

Art Therapy is probably something that you would have to source (and pay for) yourself but you could ask in your surgery. I am hoping to get my ds2 some sessions at some point soon (fingers crossed!). It's basically a safe place for any child to express how they feel through their drawings (I'm quite sure that could be worded better but it's late!) and they can chat about what they've done and why (if they want to). It's a gentle therapy, I think. Your ds might be more likely to engage with something that he has an interest in - he is also 11 so beginning to grow up - so something arty might work with him really well.

TheLadyEvenstar · 22/08/2009 00:24

Awen, I never reported it, but it was reported by a few people. But there was someone who was being quite OTT towards almost everything I typed.

I have had counselling previously and for quite a while after I was attacked and also after my dad died. If I had to pin point a change in Myself and DS it was at that point. When dad died...and I moved back home to live with my mum and obviously DS. I sometimes react agressively but thats normally when I am soooooo tired I barely type my own name...and lets face it sleep has been an issue for 8 years.....thats a hell of a lot of sleep i have missed.

However the last 2 nights ds HAS gone to bed no problems...(3rd night running). In fact it was so calm here yesterday that DS2 was asleep by 7.30 and slept until 8am this morning, DS1 was asleep by 10 and up at 8am , and I went to sleep at about 1.30 maybe later and was up at 6am so its just me left to sort out with the sleep now lol.

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Bigpants1 · 26/08/2009 00:09

TLES-why are you posting this thread again on SN?
I hope it is to get some advice on how best to help the relationship between you and your ds, and his behaviour.
I shall follow the thread, as I suspect, that you will once again, pick the "bits" that suit you, and disagree with those that do not-as a previous poster has said.
You did get some good advice on AIBU, but could not seem to get your head around the fact,that everyone was saying, that to improve your ds behaviour, you had to look at how you see him and relate to him.
Some posters said AIBU was perhaps the wrong place to post such complex issues, but you did ask if you were unreasonable to cut-up your ds food,for behaving like a twat/having a tantrum. Those were YOUR words about YOUR ds, and they did set the tone, for what followed.
So, please give an accurate background of what happened on AIBU, before complaining to the posters on SN board.
I do hope posters on here, can give you advice that will ease the stress you are dealing with.

TheLadyEvenstar · 28/08/2009 14:07

It was posted over a week ago.

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daisy5678 · 28/08/2009 14:34

Bigpants, it's not up to anyone to tell anyone else where to post with something like this. I personally think SN is a good place to put it.

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