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FLK? More like f*cking stupid GP!

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Merlot · 18/05/2005 21:36

I had such a shocking experience with my GP today that I am making a formal complaint. I know some of you who read my Insensitive GP thread here will say `you should have done this earlier', but no excuses....I just didn't feel robust enough to complain 6 months ago. Well I'm bl**dy well robust enough now and he's not getting off the hook .

Please see the letter of complaint I have written below - it is long - I warn you! It speaks for itself! It is sitting by the front door waiting to be delivered by hand tomorrow, but if there is anything anyone can suggest that I add or take out, please feel free - the better the letter the more chance I feel of making my point. So here goes....
Dear Madam

COMPLAINT ABOUT DR X

I had a consultation with Dr X this morning, regarding my son ds2, and I would like to complain, in the strongest terms possible, about the nature of that consultation.

My son ds2 has developmental delay ? he is 20 months old, but with very little expressive or receptive language skills.

Dr X asked me why I had brought ds2 along to the surgery ? I explained that I felt he was in pain of some sorts (he had had a couple of fretful nights), and that I suspected he had an ear infection, but that it was very difficult to know, because of ds2's communication problems.

? Dr X said that he could see that Matthew was developmentally delayed from the `Team Around The Child? letters in ds2's notes. He said it in a very dismissive, sarcastic and undermining way ? he gave the impression that the TATC was a complete waste of time and a very grandiose title for what it actually is. I was shocked at Dr X lack of regard for what I perceive to be a useful service and told him that, actually, I feel that the TATC is a very good idea. He seemed to show no understanding for the difficulties that are faced by parents of children with complex special needs.

? Once Dr X had established that ds2 did in fact have an ear infection (in both ears) ? I expressed my surprise at the extent of the infection and said that whilst I felt that he was on the verge of an ear infection, I hadn?t realized quite how raging it was. I couldn?t believe my ears when Dr X mumbled something along the lines of `well, its probably a case of no/little brain, no pain.? At this stage I was completely stunned. He spoke to me like a medical student not the loving mother of a very special little chap. He was completely callous.

? Dr X then went on to ask me what the experts felt was the cause of ds2's delay. I replied, that no-one really knows at this stage, but that all the relevant tests are being done and that ds2 has a paternal aunt who has learning difficulties so perhaps there might be some genetic connection. At that point Dr X asked me whether I had ever heard of the term FLK? ? a term that doctors used to use a fair bit, but which had fallen out of fashion. I said, that I don?t think I had. He went on to explain that FLK? means Funny Looking Kid? and was used when medics felt that something was not quite right, but was without diagnosis. He then went on to say that ds2 was obviously a FLK?, but that he is still rather sweet and that with any luck he might turn out as well as his aunt! At that point he handed me my prescription for ds2.

On leaving Dr X consulting room I was upset, but was in a state of shock. The full extent of what Dr X had said to me didn?t hit me until I began to drive to the Pharmacy ? I had to stop driving as I was very distressed. I decided to return to the surgery to lodge a complaint. Does this man have any understanding of what it might be like to discover that your child is not neurologically typical and how difficult it is to hold your life and the life of your family together ? apparently not!

Life is difficult enough when you have a child that doesn?t fit the normal parameters, without your GP making matters worse. I didn?t receive any words of encouragement this morning ? not that I was looking for any ? but I left the surgery emotionally fragile. Without exaggeration, if Dr X had said these words to me seven/eight months ago when I was feeling very low indeed, these words might have sent me over the edge.

If I were to be generous to Dr X ? I might describe him as having lack of insight or an atrocious bedside manner. However, this man has said thoughtless things to me before about Matthew, but I was generous with him then and I will not suffer repeatedly at the hands of this insensitive buffoon. I wonder whether Dr X has a ic streak ? for search though I might, I cannot find any justification for his talking to me the way he did this morning.

I returned to the surgery, determined that I would let my feelings known about this man (NO-ONE should have to put up with such treatment. I do not want anyone to have to deal with such cruel insensitivity again).

I feel very sorry that Dr Y had to take time out from her busy schedule to have to comfort me and apologize that I had found the consultation distressing. What a complete waste of NHS resources!

Please make it known that I do not wish to be seen by Dr X again, nor will I have him treat my children again. He has strated qualities today that I find abhorrent in a GP ? he is unfeeling and callous.

I have not had an opportunity to discuss this matter with my husband, so I cannot speak for him, but we may well want to take this complaint further when we have a chance to talk about it.

I look forward to hearing from you about what action you propose to take.

Yours sincerely

Merlot

If you have got to the end of all that - thank you!!

I was a gibbering wreck this morning, but I feel so much better for having gone and complained and for having written this letter. We have since decided to also take the complaint higher.

Lou33 - Is your local surgery at Milford? and is your health visitor B (she is a real sweetie) and if by swapping surgeries I would also get access to her, it would be worth it alone

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Blossomhill · 24/06/2005 21:44

Merlot - I wouldn't be happy with this letter at all. He is basically trying to fob you off and just skimming around the edges. He hasn't actually mentioned any of the points raised by you as I guess by doing that he is taking blame? I have actually just re-read the whole post and to be honest I think I would take the complaint as high as I could.
This man really should be struck off. He discriminated against your poor ds and I think he should be punished for doing so.

PollyLogos · 24/06/2005 21:49

I'm afraid I think that letter is a real cop-out. Its like a kid sayingsorry and thinking thats the end of it... I bet he has done this before and as you rightly point out, because patients don't want to see him any more he gets away with it. I am not convinced that the way to go is a face on meeting. I think this should go much higher.

I also refuse to believe that a GP in 2005 doesn't realise that you don't say things like that.

I would urge you to be brave and take it much higher.

PollyLogos · 24/06/2005 21:58

Actually Merlot the more I read his answer the more i am for you.Who the f* does he think he is?

Merlot · 24/06/2005 22:01

Thanks everyone

Firstly, Lou, I haven't yet decided about whether to move surgeries - as I've said before, all the other partners are great, but I guess my face to face meeting with Dr X will make my mind up for me!

Secondly, Coppertop, about the `I've been a GP since 1975' - I reckon he's trying to say that over that sort of period of time you're bound to upset one or two people. However, he omits the fact that he has probably only been practicing for about 12 years in total since then and not 30 years which is the implication!!

My first reaction when I got the letter was well at least he didnt actually dispute the fact that he said those things, and try and argue the toss....' then it struck me that he isnt offering an explanation because there is no bl<strong>*dy rational explanation. He wont try and explain, because I wouldn't be interested' ...Bllocks! its because he can't explain imo!

Blossom, as you and others have said, I need to see him face to face. I think it is absolutely laughable that he says he is a cheerful and optimistic...what the f*ck was cheeful and optimistic about our consultation?!!

How he behaves in this meeting is really going to be a big decider on how high I escalate this.

Apologies for the swearing - its not normally like me..but I couldn't help myself

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Merlot · 24/06/2005 22:03

Actually, I would really be interested to know if there are any doctors out there, that have a view on this?

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marthamoo · 24/06/2005 22:06

Tbh, the letter sounds like a cop-out to me too - it has a tone of, well I don't really know what I did wrong but I'll try and appease the unreasonable woman anyway. If you can bear it I would meet him face to face. Though - voice of doom here - I tend to think this leopard isn't going to change its spots, but at least you will have had your say.

PollyLogos · 24/06/2005 22:18

Marthamoo, your first sentance describes really well how I felt on reading it.

Merlot I realise that a face to face meeting will be catharitic for you, its not going to do anything to him though - he'll probably just sit there smiling and apologising. Perhaps at a later date you can find out who else he has done this sort of thing to (receptionists sound like they might help on that score) and make a collective complaint.

Actually you're pretty brave to contemplate facing up to him.

Angeliz · 24/06/2005 22:24

Merlot, i would at some point in the letter also repeat what he said to you a few months ago.

The man is a nightmare.

I agree with Davros about not saying he treat you like a medical student as it just makes my mind wander onto wether that is right or not.

Good luck and let us know how the horrible man takes it++++++

Angeliz · 24/06/2005 22:25

SORRY!!!!

Only read halfway up the thread

Will catch up now!

Angeliz · 24/06/2005 22:30

O.K i've csught up!
I think the tone of his letter is very selfish and he still is talking about him. It's like a poor-me attitude. He hasn't once said that what he said was unacceptable or IMO acknowledged fault!

I think you did great though in making him at least think about what he says!!

Merlot · 24/06/2005 22:31

Pollylogos - I think you are right. My desire to `have it out' with him is based on the fact that he treated me and ds2 with contempt - I want to prove to him that he is dealing with an articulate woman who is not going to put up with this sort of treatment. My guess, like yours, is that he wont show any true remorse, but just make insincere apologies - in which case, I will most definitely take this higher. Also, my gut feeling is that he is such an arrogant @rse that he is also quite likely to tie himself up in knots and could well put his foot in it further - but this time in front of his colleagues! I will then have further evidence (this time with witnesses!)for my complaint to be taken to a higher level.

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Saker · 24/06/2005 23:13

Merlot, my dh is a GP, he is also a trainer of GPs so I asked him what he thought about this.

He said it reminded him of a particular trainee he had who was pretty sound clinically but had a lot of problems with his communication skills and frequently made inappropriate comments or had an inappropriate style with patients. Dh did a lot of work on communication skills with him but felt he was banging his head against a brick wall. Each time the trainee was mortified to find he had offended but still didn't really "get it" as to how. Dh totally agrees that what was said to you was unpleasant and thoughtless. However he feels that you won't achieve much by a meeting with this GP as he probably still won't understand how he upset you and you will end up more frustrated. In terms of "taking it higher", he says there isn't really anywhere else to take it to. You can't get struck off for being rude or inappropriate and from your post there is no reason to think this GP has problems clinically. I want to emphasise that Dh does not think that this is acceptable behaviour from a GP but that he doesn't feel that there is a lot you can do about it except never go and see him again. I hope that this doesn't offend, but you asked what other doctors might think...

Merlot · 25/06/2005 08:34

Thankyou Saker and please thank your dh for me.

Its nice to hear it like it is and know the bottom line - even if it is rather shocking . I'm shocked, mainly because, from what you say, the implication is that even if this GP had said rude and discriminatory comments to half his patients and they ALL complained about him to a higher level, nothing could be done to bring him to task?!

I am not trying to get this man `struck off' for these comments. But, I would like to see him made accountable for his actions - particularly if he has a track history of this nature.

My thoughts were that I would copy both letters (mine and his)to the Primary Care Trust, with an accompanying letter along the lines of.....For your records, you may like to be aware of... This way, if others were to complain, about his manner or his ability, a fuller picture would be available.

Your dh is probably also right that this GP just wont `get it', and no doubt I will feel frustrated, but I feel I owe it my son and others like him to give it a go - even if it is like banging my head against a brick wall!!

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Saker · 25/06/2005 09:12

I think that if he is upsetting all his patients (and it sounds like he might be!) then eventually his partners will get fed up with him and may try and get rid of him. But it is true in most jobs - there are often people we don't like who no-one gets on with and who upset everyone but that isn't grounds for sacking them and you could end up getting sued for unfair dismissal if you do. Good luck if you do go and see him. It doesn't follow he is as emotionally unintelligent as my Dh's trainee (our first thought was aggh - it must be my Dh's trainee but the dates are all wrong). It might be that he will understand better what he has done and why you are upset. I will be interested to see what the PCT think also if you do copy the letter.

FWIW I think he is sorry that he has upset you. It is quite an open letter with no attempt to excuse his behaviour although no attempt to explain it either - but like you say what possible explanation is there? It is a bit like he understands he upsets people, isn't really sure why and has decided that is just the way he is. It is a very defeatist attitude and if you can make him change in any way you will be doing a great service. Let us know what happens.

Blossomhill · 25/06/2005 09:17

Merlot - I know it's going to be stressful and not sure how you feel about this but if you don't get anywhere I would go to the local papers. It may sound dramatic but this man needs to be outed as the insensitive pig he is. It may also open the floodgates for other patients affected by him to come forward.
Good luck xxx

Merlot · 25/06/2005 09:23

Thanks again Saker. I very much appreciate you and your dh's input. I know exactly what you mean about trying to get rid of people who dont do there job properly, I used to work in Human Resources and it is a real problem

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Merlot · 25/06/2005 09:24

the word should have been interperson@l not kill skills!!

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Davros · 25/06/2005 16:55

Merlot, that apologising without taking responsibility is a technique, I've known a few people who do it. They think it makes it difficult for you not to accept and puts you in a position of seeming unreasonable if you don't accept it. If you have this face to face meeting, does it affect how any complaint can then go? Will there be other professionals there as well as your DH or whoever you take with you? I would think very carefully before going to see him about this as he has set this up and thinks it will suit him and wants you on his territory but think hard about not going as that could seem unreasonable. If its not technically the correct thing to do in terms of taking the complaint further then don't go, it may be a trap! If you can go and progress the complaint then no harm done. Do you want me to come and take down what he says in shorthand verbatim? It really freaks people out, I use it in LEA meetings etc (and then never look at it again )

mumeeee · 25/06/2005 18:40

Merlot I am appalled by the wat you were treated.
you are doing the right thing by complaining.

Merlot · 26/06/2005 00:18

Thanks Mummee - it really does beggar belief doesn't it?

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