Could asd be diagnosed from these behavioural traits?

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DS1 (2.10) started a nursery program two mornings a week at the beginning of the year. The staff commented that he screams when he is angry or frustrated, but said it wasn't too much of a problem because he was just two. But now, when we returned after Easter, they said he was almost three and it was no longer appropriate and I should get him assessed. They seemed pretty certain that he was asd, or had 'asd traits' because of the screaming, also that he sometimes gets destructive and tips things over (he does this at home too - we call it rampaging - he'll throw and tip everything within reach), he doesn't listen if they reprimand him (same at home), and that he flaps his hands (just a little, if he is very upset). I could add that it is very difficult to get him to leave anywhere - I usually have to carry him out kicking and screaming. He also sometimes repeats what other children say.

On the other hand, his speech is excellent (I think, as a proud mummy), he is very sociable with children and adults, very affectionate, I think he plays imaginatively (his scenarios are a bit repetitive - i.e., cars going to the beach, trains getting stuck in the snow, but it does seem to be playing). So could he still be diagnosed as ASD? I think I'm just trying to prepare myself for the possibility of a dx.

Thanks for reading all that.

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Good question which I wish I could answer.

Have you looked at the NAS site here

Our's is only a recentish DX so am still learning/reading and awaiting our OT appointment, but DS1 also has some sensory issues (sound and smell mostly), hypermobile joints and lack of core strength.

There is a lot of cross over with dyspraxia also, immature writing and drawing, can't use a knife and fork, ok on a bike but can't work out a scooter.

He also has difficulty seeing things from someone else's point of view. He is what they call 'more able or high functioning' It's not as simple as 'cannot read other's emotions'. He can. He just can't always relate that to himself. He is very much in his own world sometimes and I can shout his name in his ear and he will be concentrating so hard he really can't hear me. It used to really annoy me. He also has an issue with eye contact. and even when I make him look at me his eyes wander off and his off with the fairies.

He gets very upset if something unexpected happpens, even if it's nice he can get himself in a terrible state.

He doesn't greet people when they come in the door at all. He will either ignore them or run up and shout that he has new shoes or that he's batboy or any info about himself. He will also do this to complete strangers and doesn't really understand about people we know and people we don't, which can be a bit embarassing in Tescos. A 5 year old can get away with it. Hopefully he'll have learnt not to do this when he's 10. But if not... well there are worse things he could do.

Sorry but I have to get on (supposed to be working LOL) but if you are worried there are lots of tests on line you could have a flick through that might give you more of an idea of the behavious and traits that you might be asked about in your appointment.
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Take care

BR

Tryingtoleave, under current definitions, ASD is (probably) a neurological condition that affects different people in different ways: some children will be more affectionate, some more withdrawn; some will be very verbal, some may never speak. If a child ticks boxes in not just social communication problem, but things like repetitive behaviour, lack of physical imitation, specific interests, and the list goes on, then they get a dx. It's not a 100% thing.
Because I've been there, I can see that you're driving yourself mad with 'is he/isn't he' and would just like someone to give you a definite answer. I think the only thing that will put your mind at rest a bit (I hope) is the appt. Try to hold on until then

I thought I should just give an update, since everyone was so kind. We went to paed today and he said that ds was 'a handful' and would continue to be a handful and if he hadn't calmed down by 5 or 6 he would probably be considered ADHD, but that there was no need to label him at the moment. He did say that they couldn't diagnose Aspergers at this age, so I guess that may be a possibility still, but one that I'll try not to think about for now. He also said that when we said 'no' we should mean it .