we've had a break through not huge but it is to me lol

[bubblagirl]

ds saw a rubbish bag and asked what banana was in there for

i said "its broken"
ds "why's it broken
me "i dropped it"
ds "why drop it"
me "because i was cleaning"
ds "what you cleaning"
me " the side from your party"
ds "why party"
me "it was your bday"
ds "why bday"
me "because you were 4"

i then changed converation as didnt think he'd stop but my goodness what and why questions all at once and he has since asked why for a few more things too

why's it raining
why's it cold

im so proud of him

drlove if dp still refuses another child i may take you up on that lol

brioche well done to your dd bubbla boy just learning and doesn't look where his going at all either at feet or else where lol

so well done to her thats great xx

tc im loving the phase and it is wearing lol some of the questions i have no idea how to answer lol

but still since his been sleeping the progress being made is enormous i would urge anyone else who's little one doesnt sleep to ask about melatonin as bubbla boy has made huge progress in the weeks his been sleeping it was slow and gradual before and then he went back in progress from no sleep at all now his so different

he wants to be around other children he has started to talk back when they talk to him he asks me questions his holding eye contact for longer its been amazing the lack of sleep really affected his ability to learn now the proof is in the pudding xx

oh except he made his own now and next day yesterday

we were having a bonfire then burger king then bowling then pediatricians lol

then park and after park hospital so i said no way lol took them ones straight off in case it jinxed something

think I'll plan our days from now on lol

Really interestnig that you see a link between his sleeping better and improved communication. Makes sense of course, but even so, how amazing!

the sleep defiantly affected him when he wasnt sleeping all progress he made slowly was lost he wouldn't communicate wouldn't leave his room wanted to sit in the dark watching tv or playing games

he wouldn't walk anywhere had melt downs over the slightest thing it was awful for 3 mths it was pure stress as he was having less than 4 hrs a night

now he wants to walk everywhere listens to me wants to do things wants to communicate has started improving greatly at pre school and is asking questions talking better in ways of forming words has started to be able to do certain words he couldnt do before

really interested in everything around him pointing and making sure im seeing it also its been great sad thing is with no sleep its all lost so im hoping things will stay as they are and we can continue with the melatonin then i wont be as scared when he starts school

he still has his moments but most days now its such a joy and defiantly because his getting sleep

definitely that should say not defiantly lol

There was an interesting study the other day where they found that kids who didn't get enough sleep were more likely to show symptoms of ADHD (but NT kids, not ones that were diagnosed with ADHD). I always thought one of the reasons DD's behaviour is pretty easy compared to some kids is that she sleeps well. As soon as she's tired, constipated or hungry you can always tell because her behaviour and accordingly language always get worse!
Bubbla, glad your little man is doing so well .

Glad to hear your ds is making such massive leaps Bubblagirl.
That is interesting what you say about adhd, Brioche, my 6 year old is HFA and suspected to have adhd aswell. He is on melatonin, and it is not working for him at all, he is getting on average 4 hours a sleep at night, and his behaviour is the same as he is on it and without it. My 4 year old with classic autism, is doing great on melatonin, except a couple of nights here and there, but much better. Seeing camhs psych weekly, to try to get some help.

i went out witha friend last night and i told bubbla boy i was going out with a friend and he said which friend mummy

deeeja don't know if you already tried or not my ds has HFA luckily melatonin does settle him off doesn't keep him asleep longer than few hours but can easily be settled again

but we put trampoline in his room so he could use his energy on there that with the melatonin seems to settle him well

Thankyou for reminding me that it is not a bout the big leaps in improvement and that the little steps are just as important.

I had forgotten as I'd had a huge leap one day that hasn't reoccured but it hasn't gone backwards to where it was either. That is progress - i forgot to appreciate it as such . Cheers

your welcome i take pride in every step no matter how small as the fact its happened is fantastic and will happen again in time

its ok to want to concentrate on the bigger things but its lots of little things that get them there

big hugs to you its hard some days to appreciate them but when you do it feels nice as you can see the progress

lol hark at me preaching now just read that awful poem its left me all sentimental now lol

hun, yesterday hy son was hitting, kicking, punching and shouting cos he got lifted off a table he was climbing on. He spent the day in his room calming down - and it took the whole day. Today he hasn't been a saint but he held my hand twice without being asked when we were out. Ok he was his usual obnoxious self the rest of the time and we had a near miss with a car. But I didn't have to ask. Progress.

Plus you have to smile occassionaly. I asked him why the tv remote flew across the room at me (he had thrown it). Without even looking at it he said "magnets mummy, it must be magnetic" Now that is an excuse you have to leave the room for - remote actually broke my vase - magnets my ass. but at least it wasn't the window.

lol bless him you do have to giggle at some of the answers given that was well thought out

my ds has days where he is in his room all day and yes its such a waste but its necessary for them to handle things in this way i guess

but well done for him holding your hand definite progress there

thats why most of the time we have to spot the small progresses as it reassures us that things can get better

at the moment ds is doing so well but i know its because he is sleeping thanks to melatonin i really hope we get given more other wise i know it'll be back to where we were

big hugs xx

does melatonin work for sleep issues. We have big problems with sleep and it was suggested that the only stuff they normally gave was likely to make him hyperactive.

Is it something worth discussing with the doc?

doctor wont prescribe it but ask pediatrician melatonin is natural hormone has no sedative in it so is not harmful just enables them to fall asleep

ds could never wind down so was only getting 4 hrs if that a night and would seriously play up not listen not want to leave the house wouldn't walk etc

now he sleeps still wakes twice a night but is asleep by 7 now and it can be given again after 4 hrs

he loves walking listens to me laughs and plays all day his speech is improving his doing so well definitely the sleep thats helped his behaviour no doubt

my gp would not prescribe as they dont have enough info on melatonin pediatricians use it solely for sleep issues with children

would well be worth your while asking

someone else commented on this thread that ADHD symptoms are often seen in children with sleep problems

good luck i would ask for sure

if your ds has no problems settling to sleep then it wont work as this is what its used for to help settle to sleep

but if he cant settle himself off till really late then could be what you need

Now that wouldn't be a surprise. Both me and a sis are ADHD. But he is more focus - more correctly obsessional about things. Make that SPACE. Just been discharged by pead - CAF meeting recently decided to leave all issue to school sn dep and suggested he will sleep better when he starts school. But its a long 4 months in the mean time.

Your a star ! hope you continue making progress!

while his sleeping he will i dread when the melatonin runs out if they dont let him have more

he also starts school sept and wasnt fobbed off with it'll help him sleep if anything i think he'd be worse more information going in no sleep melt downs over tired more rules new environment

if i were you id go gp maybe they can refer you back to pead and maybe you can get some could be worth asking gp in case yours does prescribe it could just be mine that dont

good luck xx

cheers!

heading off for the dreaded bedtime. is there a parent in the world that doesn't dread bedtime?

i did but not now xx

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Oh that's wonderful, bubblagirl. You must be so pleased. We've had what and where for a while but I can't imagine a why!
Well done little Bubblaboy

we got our first "why?" tonight! and it was an angry "why?"! i was washing ds's hair tonight (whispers for the first time in ages) and he got REALLY angry with me and shouted "WHY YOU DO THAT MUMMY?" twice. i was so surprised and pleased. not sure if it really counts, and it definitely wasn't as sustained as bubblaboy's questions, but it's a start!

thats how he started it was something like why mummy then gradually the questions became more

well done to your ds that is really great xx

it counts and its great well done him