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[Phoenix4725]

How much is important for child that who is non verbal with Gd to is it hearing correct speach , am looking at 2 schools one ms the other sn that takes asd nd mld , that now employ their own speech therpist in school

sencan the preschool sn team here in essexkeep insisting he might not learn to speak and interct at sn school, though if you seem y lst post hes not interacting at ms nursery either, just want a non lea pov

thank you

''sencan the preschool sn team here in essexkeep insisting he might not learn to speak and interct at sn school''

That sounds like an odd view ! I have visited a MLD school and there were lots of verbal/articulate children in the classes. It's only a personal view but I don't think a non verbal child would learn much at mainstream (unless exceptionally well supported). But that's just my view, My DS1 is verbal (up to a point) but I could not imagine him coping in mainstream.

Well that would be in total contrast to an Essex run course I am on atm then. No surprise there!

The course is run for parents who have children with communication difficulties and the course leader said it was more important to focus on getting communication going and for many non verbal children signs/PECS are the way to go.

I think it all comes down to money tbh and a SN school will be more expensive for them. If you think its right for your DS then persue. Could the SN school can give examples of their students progress to back you up??

the sn school seems to have everything in place, visultimetbles, pecs , makaton and whenItook ds to the meeting head felt tht yes ds would fit in and they could help him but was of th record ,but keep running into thaat line
like we dont talkto him at home hellcouple my dc suffer verbal dirroea.

notfromroundhere

how do you find out about these ourses sencan nd the speciaist hv here is feckinguseless we only see her t 6monthly review.nd sure start dont do aanything here either

I was told about it once we got the ASD dx for DS1 but the course is actually open to all parents of children with communication difficulties and you don't need a dx. Of course they don't seem to be telling parents about it until they've got a DX .

Would you believe that the specialist teacher who runs the course is based in the Mid-Essex SENCAN Pre School Team. Ask your one about the Good Beginnings course, from what I understand this is what is done across Essex in place of Hanen/Early bird course so you should have available in your area. If you don't get any joy let me know and I can speak to the couse leader for advice for you getting on one somehow.

I've only been on one session of the course but from the look of it is quite general as there is no way they can cover everything as the children range in ages from 2-6 and from non to very verbal, passive to quite agressive etc etc.

ah we come under est esex who dont run anything, or do anything tht involes getting of their arses.

Yea we have dx of gd nd sli plus asd traits. If you could ask the course leader for me I would appreciate it ty

no problem the course is on Weds so I will ask then

yeah there hell bent on ms him,they did noteven tell me about the school

yeah the schoolwith speech and languageunit wont take him because has mld, so the sn school seems best all round n if he comes out with any inpproatie words from ny other kids , i wil be so chuffed with any words that be shouting from rooftop

thats my worry the isolation which alrady suffers at nursery and thepotential for bullying ,

figure going to be 3 or 4 months but know going have to fight lea for place
but np as ds cnt start there till term hes 5 so be easter 2010 rather thn sept 2009 in ms, so will give me plenty time to get my ammo ready and they already discovered i got good aim

I agree with cyber and the others. The SN school sounds ideal, and is likely to have at least some children who are speaking anyway. The SALT input and the PECs/Makaton are far more likely to get him communicating than just listening to his peers nattering. The other kids aren't going to be Hanen trained and allow loads of time for response/deliberately repeat/follow his interest and all the other techniques you use for helping a kid with speech delay. IME - when DS had a severe language delay he did not learn a thing being at nursery - it was the one to one work I did with him and PECs that got him combining then speaking in some sentences. It was only once he was at the sentence stage that I feel the "being with his peers" factor was in any way beneficial to his language.

my gut feeling is same as cybers - that it's going to be much better for a non-verbal kid with receptive language problems NOT to be in m/s.

going be part my arguement ,ms sid there try teach lsa after september if budget allows, me thinks not playing pratice on my ds

Phoenix - I asked today at the course leader said they definitely run it in Colchester. She was going to text me the number but must have forgotten - I do remember her saying the Special Needs HV would have the details, her name began with H?

I am not sure I can really recommend the course though tbh, I know I've only been to 2 sessions but I really was quite annoyed at today's one. I will happily send you the course book once its finished in May if you want to have a read before signing up for it.

oh hazel lol shes worse than hopeless we seen her twice in 12 monts turns upfor reviews tells everyoone her opion on my son tht she never sees thats it,never returns calls but will try her

can i ask why was annoyed ,if don1t want to it is ok

thank you

Todays session was about the triad of impairments (although they say the course isn't exclusively for ASD btw) and we were asked about what our child likes doing and they were hell-bent on making everything ASD related and I just found it a bit irritating! So when I said my son likes playing hide and seek the leader said oh that will be because of the sensory side to it. When we were asked if the children would rather do something themselves than ask and me and another mum said no the opposite they will ask for us to do everything the leader said oh so they use mum as a tool then. Of course this could be true but its also fair to say he likes playing hide and seek because he is a 3 year old boy and its fun, and he likes asking me to do things because he likes interacting with me and he is a lazy toad

I realise the course is about social communication disorders but it seems to be looking at it from everything the children do and say is all driven by a disorder and they would find a box to put it in regardless.

The next 3 sessions are focusing on communication so perhaps they will be a bit more useful....

yeah lol my ds nd my nt dd 5 love hide and seek

my son is very much square peg,round hole