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ok those whos ds/dd as AS andschool says no problem have you still asked for a statement?

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trace2 · 22/02/2009 12:32

as ds school says they dont even think he as AS ( hes got dx) anyway ds tells me hes struggling with creative work and writing, and make up storys but other wise hes very bright top of class in reading, maths, his teacher says all kids strugle with some things and good at other! well i do agree but i think this time its to do with his AS .

i have asked our pead if we can do a statement she as no idea about how things work, and she thinks hes so bright hes covering how he really his feeling, as befor they broke up ds falls alot, anyway he hurt his face cutting it really badly he wouldnt go in or let anyone look at it, ( we didnt find out till home time) but is that his AS, his pead says didnt teacher know that was unusual that he woundnt be seen? sorry for waffling just really fed up thinking about all this!

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HecateQueenOfGhosts · 22/02/2009 14:00

They've got no right to say he doesn't have a condition that he has received a diagnosis for . In what way are they qualified to make such a statement?

You do not need the permission of the school to request a statutory assessment. You can do it yourself.

He needs a statement if the school cannot meet his needs. If you believe they are not meeting his needs, your first step would be to meet with the senco to discuss this, and to make them explain how they are meeting his educational needs. (you will need to break it down and ask them point by point, in detail) You need to see their targets - his iep, you need them to show you how they measure success or failure - basically they need to prove to you that they are properly supporting him and ensuring that he fully accesses the curriculum.

If they do this, he doesn't need a statement. If they are not doing this, then request an assessment. (you go to LEA for this)

info here

troutpout · 22/02/2009 14:51

No...ds has a dx for aspergers and dyspraxia.
To be fair...school (although initially stringing me along) did agree that he had quite obvious needs as he got older. He does not have a statement. He has funding though...at level 2c (15 hours worth week...i think it's nearly 8000 quids worth a year or thereabouts).
Tbh at the moment, i think this does allow them to meet his needs..atm...so i've held fire with the statement...wouldn't rule it out though (you never know whats around the corner).
The problems your boy is having in creative areas is all very familiar with me. These are exactly the areas my boy has support in. The funding also provides help with visual strategies/schedules,support with unstructed parts of the day,staff training,social skills programmes etc etc.

trace2 · 22/02/2009 19:22

thank you i really am struggling getting my head round it all, his teacher is the senco teacher its her first year at it and tbh i dont think sheas a clue

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HecateQueenOfGhosts · 22/02/2009 19:41

you need to get yourself a copy of the sen code of practice. look here

If you have a child with sen - this is your bible!

(psst...It's big and heavy and you can hit folks with it too )

AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/02/2009 21:19

Hi trace2

The school your son attends do not think he has AS when he has infact received a definate dx of AS. Bloody hell!!. How dare they override a paed's dx; they cannot and should not be saying such drivel to you.

You as his parents need to apply yourselves for the Statement. Do not let the school do it, many schools delay applications besides which if you do it yourself now you know its been done then. Also parents have the right to appeal if the LEA say no to assessment, the school does not have this right.

IPSEA have model letters for parents to use with regards to applying for a Statement:-

www.ipsea.org.uk

Anything other than a Statement is not legally binding and support can be limited in scope.

You are your son's best - and only -advocates. No-one else is better placed than you to fight for his educational rights.
You must act both firmly and decisively as his advocates and educate yourselves re the SEN code of practice.

PeachyMeBananaYou · 23/02/2009 01:46

You know,when we took ds1 to school and told him about the dx his Head (now gone hurrah) said 'I am the one who decides if he needs help'.

She was wrong, espite them alls aying it asnt needed we got him a statement and now Juniors say they coudln't have him in MS without it; his reading has gone from 4 years under age to 6 months above, althugh the behaviour still needs constant 1-1 supervision or timeout.

There's no funding without a statement here, at all. It even transpired they'd spent the IEP budget on other stuff () so glad we fought.

troutpout · 23/02/2009 07:52

This is what makes it all blardy confusing. Why can't LEA's get their act together and work within the same guidelines?
I had assumed that you didn't need a statement to get funding everywhere...
i had no idea that it depended your LEA Peachy.
ds didn't even have a dx when we got the funding here.
Trace2...do you know anyone else at your boys school or within your LEA who has gone through the process? Or you could look on your LEA website for information.
I hope you get something sorted for your boy anyway.Tbh ...if the school are in denial , then perhaps a legally binding document is the way to go.

Peachy · 23/02/2009 11:52

It'stotally random

I think each schoolis handed a budget for Sn which they shoud spend on kids with an IEP but that'snot leggaly enforceable

the only way you can get dedictaed money legally is with a statement

our LEA are a bit notorious mind! but far from the worst

trace2 · 23/02/2009 14:41

no i dont know anyone at the school who as been through it! wish i did

well our pead as refered ds to inclusion services they go in school and watch him,no idea what happens then though, and the teacher rang our pead saying you know we dont thinks he as any problems so why are you sending then out?

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