And i thought AS children could not lie?

[Marne]

Dd1 has always been honest and has always told the truth up until 2 weeks ago.

I thought because she has AS she would always tell me the truth but now she is lying about a lot of things. I tell her not to run or she we fall over so she runs, falls over and then says 'but i wasn't running'. If she makes a mess she says 'dd2 did it' when i clearly saw dd1 make the mess.

Is this normal for a aspergers child? i thought they couldn't lie .

I found the same with ds (ASD)when he turned 6! Rather threw me! Very obvious (unsophisticated) simple untruths to avoid blame/trouble -just like Dd1! I guess he is just not very good at it. The odd thing is he doesn't realise we know the truth or will see through his body language! He still tells the truth most of the time! If he has been in trouble at school he will (very openly) hide his home school book too!

My DS has AS and he lies a lot! He makes up stories and tells them to people at school in the hope that they will be impressed and be his friend!

Can't rememebr when he started this, but he is 10 now and beginning to realise that people don't like lies and has recently started to be more honest and admit when he has done something wrong. He is trying hard to get things right

J lies loads. And his eyes slide to the side so it's really obvious. I think it is funny but try and be stern. Like magso, they're usually really bad lies. I think it's a sign of sophistication, actually, to be able to lie - hope you know what I mean - so am not that upset that he does it even if I also couple that with teaching him it's wrong to.

We can lie. We're just hopeless at it. We learn that people often expect us to lie a lot. These are examples:

"How are you?" "Fine thanks" (lie)
"Do you like my hair?" "Oh I love it" (lie)
"Have you worked hard on that homework?" "Yes mum" (lie)

How are we supposed to know what the difference is? We're rewarded for lying to people one minute, and punished the next. It's all quite mad. Try explaining the rules to us for when you're allowed to lie and when you're not. Impossible, eh?

I think it's a self-defence thing for a number of children. They are worried sick about what the person is going to do if they say the truth (bearing in mind our hypersensitivity to a lot of things that others don't notice), so it may be a calculated risk.

Child runs, falls down. If they say they weren't running maybe mum won't shout right now, because they are already shaken up and confused and hurting, and you shouting will make it ten times worse.

So that's maybe why they try. But it's normally such an amateur effort that it's not worth trying at all.

givemesleep- dd1 does that thing with her eyes .

Today dd1 got home from school and said 'i have got something for you mummy' and produced a carrot out of her pocket , she was given it for her snack (dd1 doesn't eat carrots), she told the teacher she had eaten it and put it in her pocket (only a small carrot) and brought it home to use as a nose for a snowman.

DS often will tell an obvious lie to avoid consequences of his actions - in part for him it is to avoid damaging his poor self esteem then he doesn't have to think of himself as 'naughty'. He does the eye thing too!

The "fact" that people with AS can't lie is a lie! My sister with AS has always lied a lot but I think she genuinely believes some of the things she says! She has an elaborate imagination and sometimes the boundaries get blurred. Things happen to other people, suddenly you hear a version of the same story but it happened to her. She will lie to cover up when she thinks she's done something wrong but doesn't do it very well etc.

ds2 has ASD & will lie through his teeth, totally poker faced!