Please help me ..... Is DYSPRAXIA deffo on AS?

[RTKangaMummy]

DS is nearly 10 and has DX of Dyspraxia

We think he has some traits of AS

But very very mild

DS Head teacher was asked by ED Psych whether he was Autistic

SHe said ABSOLUTELY NOT

I am fuming with her comments

we are waiting for ED Physch app.

And now it is set for JUNE because apparently he only sees one child per visit to school

We were expecting him to see DS last month when he came to see another child

...

I thought that dyspraxia ison the lower end of the spectrum

Am I wrong?

I didn't think it was necessarily on the same spectrum, although it would appear that some children do exhibit both. I 'm also confused as to the DAMP condition which someone mentioned on another thread and how that goes along with AS, ADD etc

I was understanding that there was a cross over of symtoms

and a blurry line

I have been told to imagine all of these symptoms like the olympic sign. They all over lap.

BH Thanks

That is brill

a really good way to think about it

Anymore ideas????

We were told the Olympic symbol the same as Bloss.....however we have also been told that Dyspraxia is the motor coordination difficulties experienced by children who are on the Autistic Spectrum, therefore Dyspraxia is on the spectrum.

Its like SPD....some say it is ....some say it isnt....just makes our lives a tad more confusing....as if we arent stressed enough!!!!!

Yes It is more that they overlap. Your son has dyspraxia and autistic traits but would not be autistic.

I have one ds with autism and another with language difficulties. The language son has many traits of autism but is not autistic enough to have a dx of asd.

It also seems to depend on where you live.

Jaysmum Where I am SPD is not a recognised dx and autistic spectrum disorder is the given dx instead.

Yes that is the problem

I know he is not autistic like for example Jimjams DS

But what do you call it then

Dyspraxic with Autistic traits or very very mild autism

He has the police trait he deffo would see it as his job to tell someone they were doing wrong even if they were older than him

He has the social probs of how to behave when greeting people

What is SPD?

I understood it to be that dyspraxia is not on the autistic spectrum but you often don't get "pure" dyspraxia but dyspraxia with autistic, ADHD traits etc.

I got the following from the Dyscovery Centre site:
"The diagnosis is made if the coordination difficulties are not due to a general
medical condition (e.g., cerebral palsy, hemiplegia, or muscular dystrophy)
and the criteria are not met for Pervasive Developmental Disorder
(Criterion C).
If mental retardation is present, the motor difficulties are in excess of those
usually associated with it (Criterion D)."

Delay in motor skills that interferes with daily life is the major criteria for diagnosing dyspraxia, not communication or socialisation difficulties.

one of the other mums said that the other children like him for his

"MADNESS"

What that means I haven't a clue

she said others were liked for enthusiasm, immagination, energy and her DD who is DS best friend said they liked him for his MADNESS

I think they think he is quirky

They in the past have called him WEIRD

What will they think at senior school?

He moves up sept 2006.

I think if anyone asked I would say Dyspraxia ith autistic traits.

SPD is Semantic Pragmatic Disorder which is a lnguage disorder which may or may not be on the autistic spectrum[ depending on hwere you live]

SPD = Semantic Pragmatic Disorder......difficulties with Semantic and Pragmatic speech.

Lorna Wing in one of her research papers actually wrote that SPD is in her opinion the purest form of Autism that there is.....I have requested a copy of the research to hand to the CP....CP insists that SPD is nothing to do with Autism at all....should be interesting when we next go to see her!!!

Ok thanks

So will tell them

Dyspraxia with Autistic traits

Brill thanks guys

My son is 10 now he was diagnosed with dyspraxia when he was 6 then also diagnosed with aspergers/asd last year

We went the ADHD - dyspraxia - pragmatic disorder - High Functioning Autism route - they are all still there to some extent or other but the HFA diagnosis is the top trump for want of a better way of putting it.

It does 'sound' as though there are some 'traits' in your DS - what a pain having to wait for the EP .

This sounds really similar to my son. he has a dx of dyspraxia (and DAMP too), and we wondered if he has AS/autistic tendencies (again v mild) as he has similar social problems, the police trait etc etc to your son. the paed thought he doesn't have AS. His peers also think he is weird. (he is 6). We haven't had an ed psych report yet though.

Thanks for replies

We have been sent a form to get school to fill in

But the questions are not relevent to DS though

My ds is probably dyspraxic (he's three) and he does have some minor social issues - he's slightly literal minded (why are we playing shops? there are no shops here?), and sometimes got upset when we said things like 'laughted until his head fell off', used to find it quite difficult to know how to play with children (improving dramatically here) etc. But he's affectionate, loving towards his family and sometimes towards friends, loves poetry and books, is clever (adores numbers rather passionately which can be quite AS) and is a tad eccentric, but I think he will be OK. So my guess would be that yes, there can be an overlap with A/S but it needn't be a huge problem. The 'spectrum' is a very, very wide one!

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Yeah, our Paed and the geneticist said that dyspraxia, dyslexia and 'mild social eccentricities' are on the spectrum.