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Is BUTTER casein free? What about WHEY products for babies?

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kalo12 · 14/11/2008 19:33

I'm doing GF/CF for 9 month ds . BF but not much milk and he is not keen on solids .

need some fat. Is butter ok?

I heard Whey protein was v. good for leaky gut syndrome . Anyone know of any kind of yoghurt made just with whey?

all advice welcome

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PeachyAndTheSucklingBas · 14/11/2008 20:41

You need dairy free butter, Sainsburys do a good own brans, and most supermarkets stock Pure brand.

Also... just be wary of your own intake, I am bf ds4 and gf/cf (2 asd siblings) and he ahs a casein intol anyway, and the casein passes through milk- hen screams if I give in and have something

kalo12 · 15/11/2008 13:38

is coconut oil ok for babies? is it a nut / seed?

have you ever tried goats milk peachy - different type of casein that doesn't go to the brain or something?

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r3dh3d · 15/11/2008 20:41

The Pure brand is good stuff. Comes in soya based or sunflower oil based varieties. Hard to make biscuits with but otherwise cooks well.

Re: whey ... it is what is left after the solids are removed from milk but I don't think the process is 100% efficient. I imagine it still contains some casein. I've never heard of whey yoghurt and can't imagine what it is like because you need to leave the solids in: whey is dead runny stuff. So if you find some let me know what it is like! The Alpro soya yoghurt brand is good but (as with all soya alternatives) check it contains calcium or it's not a good nutritional swap for the dairy version. Alpro seems to come in adult flavours (labelled "organic") and kids' ones (there's a tick box on the packet saying "+calcium". Soya milk the same - check calcium is added. Another alternative is rice or oat milk.

Soya cream is quite high fat and you can cook with it though (like the milk) don't overheat/boil it and if making a sauce add at the end not the start. And it has a slightly oversweetened taste so use with stronger flavoured food - I make a potato and mackerel dauphinoise, or a carbonara with mushrooms.

Is the nut thing permanent or just something you're holding off on till 1 year? Nut butters etc. have high mineral content and are high fat. Tahini (sesame paste) is good on toast (or, rather, rice cakes!) and high calcium. Peanut butter is pleasingly lardy too!

Watch out for milk in unexpected places - crisp are my bugbear (ffs) and processed meat (also ffs). The first 2 or 3 times you go round the supermarket you have to read every label so allow yourself at least another half hour.

kalo12 · 16/11/2008 09:27

thanks r3dh3d - is tahini safe for under ones? Is flax seed oil / seeds in general?

my ds seems to be becoming sensitive to every food i give him. I'm avoiding soya too. I'm losing my mind really. Am reading 'digestive wellness for children' by elizabeth lipski - have you heard of it?

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wb · 16/11/2008 10:21

Coconut is not classified as a nut for allergy purposes, so can be eaten even if peanuts and tree nuts are being avoided.

misscutandstick · 16/11/2008 18:32

DS5 is on this diet and its done wonders for him - hes also intolerant to soya, egg, and a wierd one: annatto.

I tell you this because he seems to be OK (ADAIK) with coconut oil (still doing challenges with it), its good for calories.

Oh and just a quick mention: 'wheat starch' - while its classified as 'gluten free', its actually not but it is low in gluten which means some people can tolerate it and some cant.

misscutandstick · 16/11/2008 18:35

BTW DS5 likes streaky bacon, plenty of fat on it - just not sure about the amount of salt (i always rinse well before cooking) and cook gently so its still quite soft as he doesnt 'do' chewing!

PeachyAndTheSucklingBas · 17/11/2008 13:48

Sorry busy Saturday and missed this, lots of good advice

DS4 has coconut but he's also had marked growth problems so calories an exceptionally i,mportant thing; I may not have given them otherwise iyswim

r3dh3d · 17/11/2008 14:08

Bacon is a good tip! Avocado and banana were staples here as reasonably high fat (for fruit) and bland enough to sneak into other things.

I'm not sure about seeds. I've worked on the basis here that seeds are not nuts, but we're largely dealing with a metabolic problem with dairy. If you've got a very sensitive intolerance then I don't know whether they would be OK or not.

Cutting soya out is a pain because so many alternatives are based on soya.

Would agree with MCAS re: wheat - my mum is wheat intolerant and "gluten free" isn't enough, for her it has to be completely wheatless which isn't quite the same thing.

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