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Really early signs of autism

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Moski · 08/11/2008 03:35

Apparently a new study will be issued describing signs of autism in children under 12 months. Scary but important for early treatment. Here is the link:
blog.newsweek.com/blogs/labnotes/archive/2008/11/06/harbingers-of-autism.aspx

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melmamof3 · 08/11/2008 10:48

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mumgoingcrazy · 08/11/2008 11:51

I found this really interesting. DD2 is only 16 months but I've always felt she showed signs of autism from an early age and started doing Stanley Greenspan's 'floortime' technique (only a month ago) and this is proving to be very successful already. I totally agree with working on them early.

Marne · 08/11/2008 12:40

Interesting but i agree with mel, no way is autism a tragedy (its not life threatning).

Dd1 was a very difficult baby, cried at people and noises, poor sleeper and just realy hard work. Because she was my first i thought she was normal until AS was mentioned when she was 2.8.

Dd2 was an easy going baby, slept well so we were never realy concerned until time went on and she still had no speech.

Looking at photos of dd1 when she was a baby and she had a large head but all ok now, Dd2 has always had a large head.

We are using floortime with dd2 and it works realy well, eye contact has improved and she seems more alert.

cyberseraphim · 08/11/2008 13:59

Comparing DS1 (ASD) with DS2 (NT) in the 6 -12 month period, there were clear and obvious differences but I'm not sure how it would translate into a reliable test. DS1 has a small head.

Davros · 08/11/2008 14:01

I believe the NAS Research foundation (or whatever its called) is involved in a baby siblings study, they are probably funding it. You have to realise that using the word "tragedy" to describe ASD publicly is OK in America but gets picked up asap here. Not that I don't consider DS's ASD a tragedy if I'm ever able to be honest with people. And it can be life threatening by proxy iyswim. There are certainly a good number of individual with ASD who die or are killed due to their ASD. I strongly believe that DS's ASD could have been picked up by appropriate tests/observation from VERY young. He was like Marne's DD1 as a baby, a nightmare in fact, but then became very attached to routine, also no attachment or eye contact or interaction. When people (tactlessly) say we were lucky to get a dx at 2 yrs they don't realise that's because it was sooooo obvious that he was different from VERY young.

melmamof3 · 08/11/2008 18:31

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Buckets · 08/11/2008 18:38

It's a disease????

melmamof3 · 08/11/2008 20:35

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bullet123 · 08/11/2008 20:59

I had the sense very early on with Ds1 that he was different, obviously didn't connect it to anything but he always seemed more "independant", always more happy to do things on his own terms than other babies.

PipinJo · 08/11/2008 21:00

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ScottishMummy · 08/11/2008 21:13

your link

deeeja · 08/11/2008 21:33

Oh yes, health-visitors, I have come across some terrible ones. I don't think the majority of them read anything, except their little red/vlue books and weight/height charts.
When my ds3 was sat in a corner rocking back and forth, staring at string when he was 20 months old, the health visitor said he was concentrating on something for so long he couldn't possibly be autistic. He will soon start babbling, and to enjoy the peace.
It took 6 months from that point to finally get a diagnosis, and then a second opinion, from respected developmental paediatrician to get the correct one.
My ds2 as diagnosed within 4 months, but not until 5 years old.
They were both certainly different from birth, and did the staring out of the corner of the eye, and spinning of everything. Ds4 is two next week, and spins objects, he is verbal, but not picking up words at the rate of other children his age. He also has alot of problems with pronunciation, and has words for things that only I understand. Such as 'kookoo' for train, 'nana' for thomas the tank engine, 'mimi'for biscuit, etc. He has just started pointing at things he wants, but prefers to move my hand. I am watching him for signs, as is my ds3's doc.
He is alot like ds3 at that age: angry, difficult, sleeps very poorly, and does like to throw things rather than play with them, he does the same action again and again for literally hours and goes wild if disturbed. Ds3 was very placid, and barely made a sound except a high pitched scream.

RaggedRobin · 08/11/2008 22:01

bullet123 - sounds very like my ds. totally independent from a young age. started pushing a little trolley about at 9 months and just seemed like his own little person from then. it's only now when he is almost ready to start nursery (and having had it pointed out by salt) that i can see that he sticks with his own agenda regardless and tha this is likely to cause him difficulties.

i've always thought that following the child's lead was the best way to encourage them to learn, but i worry now that i've reinforced his difficulties by being led too much by his interests.

sorry, a bit off topic.

PipinJo · 08/11/2008 22:07

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SixSpotBonfire · 09/11/2008 00:09

I was concerned about DS1 before he was 12 months, whereas I was convinced DS3 was absolutely fine at 12 months. Guess which one is more severely autistic ?

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Buckets · 09/11/2008 12:42

Bullet, yes my DS was a very independent baby, I felt very early on that he didn't really need me except for the basics. Was very confusing as I couldn't describe it as lack of bonding because that usually implies some problem on the mum's side. People were just furniture, either in his way or not.

SixSpotBonfire · 09/11/2008 22:23

PipinJo - yes indeed - DS1 is very high-functioning and has managed in mainstream without a statement - he's 9 now - whereas DS3 is non-verbal at 4 and has full-time LSA at nuirsery

bullet123 · 09/11/2008 23:34

Ds1 was always very happy to be held and cuddled, but it didn't matter who with, there was never any wariness of strangers, never any sense that he knew we, his parents, were more significant to him than say a relative he hadn't seen in months. He would never check our reaction to things either.

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