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TWOcutedarlings will soon become THREE.......come and educate me on genetics

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twocutedarlings · 16/07/2008 14:08

Im pg with DC3 totally unplanned .

I currently have 2 DDs aged 5 and 3, DD1 has AS and DD2 is NT. Does anyone know what the statistic are for having another child that is on the spectrum?

The thing is we have never found a genetic link for DDs ASD, ive always believed that my shitty labour/delivery with her was to blame tbh.

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BriocheDoree · 16/07/2008 14:31

Congrats on your pregnancy! Wish I could advise...DD is SLD, pos. PDD or sthg like (still going thru the rounds of diagnoses) and DS is only 1 so too early to tell. Must admit, was really panicky about 11.5 months because he wasn't pointing yet (he started about a week later) so can understand the concerns! Trouble with the spectrum, it's so bloody broad, isn't it!! Hope all goes well with the pg.

cyberseraphim · 16/07/2008 14:31

I don't think there is a clear answer. It is true that most would say there is an increased risk but that does not mean the risk is a large one in itself, it may be a very small risk. Also risk factors are derived from assessed groups which won't tell you what the personal risk factor is for you. The chances are everything will be fine, nothing in life is secure or assured but there's no point in worrying all the way through the pregnancy (like I did !)

cyberseraphim · 16/07/2008 14:34

What BD says is true - the ever expanding diagnostic spectrum puts everyone's risk factor higher regardless of family history.

kiddiz · 16/07/2008 15:24

My ds1 has a rare congenital condition with no diagnois as to the cause. We had genetic counselling before having ds2 and were told a 1:30 chance of it happening again. It always puzzled me how they could give this figure when the cause of his disability was not known. It is a complex condition where the diagnosis is really only a description of the symptoms so 2 children with the same diagnosis could have 2 completely different causes. Added to that my fil was adopted and knows nothing about his natural family. I asked and they said they base their predicton on studies of other children with a similar diagnosis and reoccurrance rates in those families.
My ds2 and dd were both fine but I do know a family who were told they had more chance of winning the lottery than it happening again who went on to have another affected child. I should add this was not AS and was a while ago.

misscutandstick · 17/07/2008 19:29

I have 5 sons. DS1 is ADHD and others, DS2 is dyslexic, DS3 is NT, DS4 is superbrain!, DS5 is preDx PDD (of some description). BUT there are a few in the family with differing 'conditions' - so it was always more likely.

however, i asked this very same question in 'larger familys' board, click here

have a look and see if it helps at all. XXX

misscutandstick · 17/07/2008 19:32

forgot to add that DS4 had all the benefits of every prenatal vitamin going including omega 3, i ate an outrageously sensible diet making sure of enough protein, and also did the 'pat, pat, rub, rub' programme. so did it help, or would he have turned out the same as he did anyway???

OdoItal · 15/04/2015 11:55

I used to be misscutandstick. how times dx have changed...
DS1 still adhd,
DS2 ASD and dyslexic
DS3 Dyspraxic
DS4 AS
DS5 Brain injury, ASD, dyspraxic, hypermobility and other bits.

And i thought i was one of the clued up ones! Doh!
AND all those prenatals didnt stave off anything!!! goes to show eh? Incidentally DD 2y also had prenatals with immense amounts of B bits (tenuous link between B deficiency and autism), and shes heading the ASD route too, guess nature wins on that round!

Tunna · 15/04/2015 16:57

I wish we could give out medals on this board because odoital you deserve one Smile

senvet · 15/04/2015 18:31

Whatever dx they have, my relatives with ASD and other dxs are all wonderful people that I like being with, who have helped me a lot and I'm really glad I know.

Hang in there

twocutedarlings · 15/04/2015 20:42

I am the original OP of this thread Grin

Shall I update? well I had a little boy who is now 6 and has an ASD dx he also has learning difficulties and probably ADHD.

He is highly challenging, but the most fun loving funny busy boy!

Our Pead wants us to do genetic test but for the time being we have opted not to.

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2boysnamedR · 15/04/2015 22:20

Ah my dd has genetics next week, will she to have sen?

I can't process the thought right now (la laaa laaa la la I'm not listening .....)

Unfortunately her odds are not good 50:50

In my eyes it was set before she was born. I don't hold any hope, it's the best defense I have to survive

Eldest is nt ( ish) I miss his toddler hood, if only I knew then I would never again hear a toddler of mine asking those repeated "why? Why? But whhhyyyyyy?"

How I would love to be fed up of hearing why again Grin

Genetics gives answers with no answers some times. I know there is genetic issue but science has yet to catch up with the ability to find these genetics issues. They can find things, but not always tell you what it means

misscutnadstick · 16/04/2015 07:49

changed my name back Grin much prefer it.

tunna Of my children (and before i continue i love them all!) the hardest most challenging one is the one thats nearest to NT!!!

Maybe its because meltdowns do blow over eventually, or maybe the "logical" upsets that cause behaviours can be explained, or maybe its easier to 'forgive' (and maybe even expect!?!) asd type difficulties - let it be known at this point i dont FAVOUR any one of the children - but honestly, the most NT one is hormonal, unreasonable, self centred, stroppy, angry, lashes out, thoughtless, most challenging one! Of course i love him, im hoping he comes out the other end of teenagedom a nice person, after all, he was before he went into it.

2cute - thankyou for the update!!! lovely to hear the progress Smile wow 6yrs! didnt even know you were still around here Smile glad you found happiness Flowers

2boys - know what you mean, i only got the toddler "why" once too, all the others had speech issues/delays. DD is 2 and still only has 4 words. We had genetics done with DS5 at 2yrs, found nothing - but there is A LOT of asd throughout both immediate and extended family. so much so in fact, that since before DD's birth we were wondering what variety of asd she might have rather than 'if'. (incidentally i think we are looking at AS with ADHD traits) .

senvet - but whatever labels/traits she has, she is also funny, cute, loveable, nosey, bright, and all round wonderful! I agree, people are still people with their own thoughts, needs, and wants - they just have characteristic traits which they share with a select few, but they still have their own slant and personality which makes them who they are.

twocutedarlings · 16/04/2015 11:21

Oh ive been around, but not used this name for a long time. I dont actually post very often....MN is a bloody minefield these days!

Your family is very similar to mine DD2 also have Dyspraxia (as does DD1 along with ASD) Dyslexia, Dyscalculia. Tho I would describe her as NT as thats how she see's herself IYSWIM.

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2boysnamedR · 16/04/2015 12:38

Mumnets has always been a minefield. God forbid you want to talk about any thing.

I remember asking when my eldest was young about BPA in bottles. I was told to shut up as it was a boring subject... Harmful things to a child on parenting forum?.... Really!? .... I don't post off mnsn now .... Unless of course if I wanted people's options on what will happen to life on earth if the megnetosphere us blow away by solar winds....... Which is on every parents radar I'm sure....Wink

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