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do you know I can't be fucking bothered anymore

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2shoes · 16/05/2008 22:12

I have had it with this crap.
I am fed up with threads on mn that seem to say that being disbaled makes you less of a person.
I have seen 2 today. I can't be fucked with trying to "educate" people anymore.

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caitlinnjacksmummy · 17/05/2008 15:27

I bloody well will be too!!! , how DARE they?!!!!

clarisa · 17/05/2008 15:36

Complete bloody ignornace, I will also add my thoughts! Hugs 2shoes x

nobodyputsBBinthecorner · 17/05/2008 15:56

2shoes i dont really tend to post here or do anything to technical, but i read the thread that you were refferrng too, and im disgusted, absolutely livid on your behalf x

NotABanana · 17/05/2008 15:59

I'm with you 2shoes.

I wish people would just come out and say they want an amnio because they want to know for sure to terminate, not to prepare, as half the time I guess that is what is going to happen.

Before I had a baby I felt I would have terminated a child with a disability but when we had a threatened m/c everything changed.

I was presented with problems with one of my DC and it just made me love him more. This will sound all wrong and stupid, and I apologise, but I almost felt cheated when he was born NT as I was expecting a SN child.

FioFio · 17/05/2008 19:42

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Bugmum · 17/05/2008 20:41

I've been lurking on SN for ages, waiting for my DS1 to get a dx (he now has: ASD), and it's been reading about how wonderful the kids whose mums come on here are (and how annoying, just like any other kids!) that has helped me to realize that SN is just another country, no more scary really than the one my (so far) NT DS2 inhabits. Anyway, I wanted to make my first SN post to say how I am that you have been made to feel like this

amber32002 · 18/05/2008 08:20

The people who see disability as something to be feared/killed off should try reading books like "Dasha's Journal" by T O Daria, or "The Myriad Gifts of Asperger's Syndrome" by John M Orwitz. Such positive books, showing the good points of each individual with a disability instead of just a depressing list of things-they-can't-do.

Books like that have made such a difference to me and my outlook on life, realising the things I'm actually better at than many other people. (I can find visual information at lightning speed, I can hear when a piano is even slightly out of tune, I can spot ceiling lights that are about to fail well before other people, I can concentrate on something for impossible hours without tiring, etc. I just couldn't explain any of it beforehand.) To give one example, most children with AS have extraordinary abilities of one kind or another - it's just that people are so used to thinking "their way" that they miss these abilities completely, because they misinterpret them , or lack the skills to hear what their child hears, see what their child sees.

It's like the child who would scream at her bedroom wall for hours. The parents put it down to being a destructive obsession, but in reality she could hear a failing electrical cable that was well on the way to being a fire hazard. When it was investigated, the electrician said that she'd probably saved their lives.

Not every child will have an identifiable amazing ability, but I do wonder how many are missed because most people lack the skills to realise what's happening.

As human beings we all have things we can't do and things we can't commnicate that well, or things we find really hard. It doesn't have to define us and be the only thing that matters. I wish they'd realise it and stop treating almost all people with disabilities as if they don't deserve to live on the same planet as supposedly more perfect people, or as failures or something broken. sigh

Tclanger · 18/05/2008 15:21

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amber32002 · 18/05/2008 16:39

I'm astonished that there's someone on there who thinks that children with disability-related behavioural issues should be put down. Just astonished.

2shoes · 18/05/2008 16:52

the tragic thing is that these people have decided they are right because the once met someone, or know someone who works in sn. they then think that they have the right to make judgement.
my concern is where does it end. when will they just decide all disabled children should be murdered.

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catok · 18/05/2008 17:01

Big hug, 2shoes. Everyone on this thread knows that children with disabilities help us all to be better people. I've changed as a person since living with and working in SN. Perhaps the people with nasty comments haven't had the opportunity to get to know disabled kids?

MABS · 18/05/2008 17:45

Fucking ignore them 2shoes, they just arent worth even one moment of your time.xx

wannaBe · 18/05/2008 20:15

what I find shocking is that there is someone on that thread who claims to have a disability and yet who states that not all disabled peoples' lives are worth living. And that it should come down to money ffss! . Surely as someone with a disability she will have encountered prejudice, so to heap similar prejudices on to other I just find inconceiveable.

VictorianSqualor · 18/05/2008 20:25

I'm certainly not the most knowledgeable, nor the most tactful poster regarding SN, I'll be honest I have no fucking idea about any of it, it's not my life, but it is many peoples lives and I don't think anyone has a right to decide if that life is worth living.
I'm sorry this has upset you 2shoes, I really hope for these ignorant peoples' children's sakes they never have an accident that leaves them less than 'perfect'.

misdee · 18/05/2008 20:27

i seem to have missed the whole thread but got very angry about the 'its not pc' one. i did comment on it as felt i had to.

lou33 · 18/05/2008 20:37

what mabs says

cazcaz · 18/05/2008 21:26

I also read the abortion thread and felt sickened by the comments, and feel very grateful that I don't know anyone with those views in RL (I hope!).

2shoes I'm so sorry you were upset by the comments as well.

amber32002 · 19/05/2008 06:55

Now someone suggests pregnant women have the right to drink to excess if they want, because it's their body and their choice, no matter what happens to the baby. Gee whizz. Are these people 'trolls'? I'm finding it hard to believe they would honestly hold these views.

TopBitch · 19/05/2008 07:28

May i suggest ignoring threads like those?

You can't change another person's opinion, no matter how wrong or right it may be. Why spend time reading something that will upset you, 2shoes. There are plenty of ignorant souls in this world. Some of them will never change. Are these people worth getting upset over? No way, Jose!

Remember that in life, you have to choose your battles wisely. Some people/situations are better left alone. Focus on what you can change and on what makes you happy.

Now go and have some chocolate and forget about the silly threads. Don't read them!

Tclanger · 19/05/2008 08:24

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cyberseraphim · 19/05/2008 08:34

People who post those sorts of views are in denial about life. No matter how wonderful their normal child is now, in a few years ( sorry to be depressing on a monday morning) he/she will be just another ordinary middle aged/elderly person who makes 'demands' on the system. Whether a person requires full time care all their life or 'only' for the last 20 years of a life, the value of the life is the same. They are building their own funeral pyres if they want a society in which no one has the right to exist unless they are healthy and attractive. Or maybe they want a 'Logan's Run' society in which everyone is killed at the age of 30 ( I'd have been gone long ago)

TopBitch · 19/05/2008 08:42

Some people aren't worth challenging Tchanger. It's better to ignore the silly morons.

You can talk all you like, but some people just don't change how they think. I challenged everyone on my DD's behalf and at the end of the day, I became emotionally drained. So now, I focus on my DD and finding help for her. Why let something someone you don't even know says bother you?

Tclanger · 19/05/2008 08:46

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TopBitch · 19/05/2008 08:52

To make you feel a bit better, 2shoes, I used to take pictures of everyone who stared at my DD.

I stopped because, although I managed to embarass a lot of people, I still couldn't change their attitude toward my DD.

TopBitch · 19/05/2008 08:53

To make you feel a bit better, 2shoes, I used to take pictures of everyone who stared at my DD.

I stopped because, although I managed to embarass a lot of people, I still couldn't change their attitude toward my DD.