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Applying for statement - sorry, very long

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KarenThirl · 30/04/2008 07:53

I've already posted this in Education SN but have been advised to post hear as well for advice.

A bit of background... J's 9, dx of AS, in Y4 of mainstream primary. We moved him to his present school in September and it's fantastic, everything we wanted - small classes, children who like him and want to be friends, autism-aware, friendly and supportive teachers and he's happy for the first time in his school life. His old school was totally the opposite, didn't particularly want SN on the premises, had no patience with behavioural disorders and did very little to support him. Frequently talked the talk but did little to back that up. J's a typical 'coper' on the surface, would get through the day in school then erupt afterwards at home from the stress. There were countless examples of him cracking up but school regarded it as a 'home problem' and offered no practical help.

In both schools he's done academically very well, top sets in everything, loves learning. Even in the old school he thrived on the classroom environment because of its order and predictability, but struggled to cope in unstructured times such as playtimes and lunch. Other children soon learned how to press his buttons, he was bullied and teased but always got the blame because it was mishandled.

Although he's only in Y4 I've spoken with the Choice Advisor from the LEA about appropriate secondary places and she's advised me to apply for a statutory assessment to widen his options. I've explained to her that J is calm and settled in school right now (and afterwards ? no stress-induced meltdowns) because he's in the right environment, and that's why he's presenting no immediate problems. However, in his old school he would lash out in aggressive outburst almost daily, he had no friends, no social boundaries and it was very difficult to teach him how to behave more appropriately - theoretically he understood right from wrong but could never apply those rules when he became emotional. In the time he's been at the new school he's learned so much because he is so much calmer and receptive. However, all the work that's been done with him is at home, apart from a weekly social skills group in school. He's currently on SA+. My aim is to prove that although he's settled now, it's because of a considerable effort to get him to that point and because he's in the right environment. I want to use past evidence to show how severe his behaviour was when his needs weren't being met, so that they can understand the importance of getting him into the right secondary school.

I've been going back through notes and correspondence from the old school and have been quite alarmed at how much I'd forgotten about how awful things were for him there. Countless incidents of him hitting other children in frustration, bullying that wasn't addressed, and the comment from the Head saying that J was 'the most violent child with AS she's ever encountered', and questioning whether that was the right place for him, shouldn't he be in special school.

I would like to think I've got grounds to apply for a statement for proactive reasons, as it's clear to me that his progress and happiness this year have been largely due to the appropriate environment in which he's being taught. But would the LEA agree to assessment if he's coping so well at the moment? There would be no current evidence of his dificulties as he's calm enough to manage them. I want to avoid him sliding back into his old stressed pattern if I possibly can but I think he needs to be in the right school for this to happen. I can't just assume that any school he goes to will meet his needs - the one he's just left got Outstanding in its recent OFSTED and they were nothing short of barbaric at times. The irony is that his new school feeds into the best school in the borough but it's ridiculously over-subscribed and J isn't automatically eligible because we live out of catchment.

If anyone has advice or comments on this I'd be glad to hear them.
Thanks.

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sarah293 · 30/04/2008 08:27

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drowninginlaundry · 30/04/2008 08:31

I always think that parents should request a statutory assessment if they think that their child's needs could be met better or if their child has complex needs. If you get turned down, you can appeal to SENDIST. Many LEAs turn down requests for stat assessment almost as a matter of informal policy these days, just to shake off some less determined parents. In most cases they concede if you appeal, or threaten to. It's definitely worth the hassle, and you seem so organised already!

Hassled · 30/04/2008 08:39

My experience of the Statementing process is that it tends not to be proactive. The assessment looks at whether the child's educational needs are currently being met, or whether a Statement is necessary to ensure they are met.

I had a similar issue with DS2, who is Dyspraxic - he was fine at his first school, but as he moved up a Key Stage and there was more emphasis on written work I knew he would struggle. The Statement was refused, it seemed because he was fine at the time I applied (and my fears turned out to be justified, but that's a different story).

Having said all that, my DS3 was Statemented as part of the run up to him starting Reception because problems were anticipated (speech disorder), so it's certainly well worth you trying. It would be so worth it in terms of the catchment issue. Good luck.

drowninginlaundry · 30/04/2008 08:56

you are right Hassled - that's the reason our LEA gave us when they refused DS1's statement, that 'his needs were currently being met'. And they were, sure, because we were home educating him with VB I had to appeal and bully them into submission but eventually we got it on the basis of the complexity of his needs.

KarenThirl · 30/04/2008 10:48

Thanks for your replies, very helpful. I've checked Supportive Parents but there isn't a branch here in the north east. I'm seeing someone from Parent Partnership on Friday and although I know some people have had negative experiences with them I feel quite comfortable about them because our local branch is run by Barnardo's and J is known to them via their support group. Have been trying all week (and last!) to get through to IPSEA, will keep persevering! Also trying to get a reply from NAS education helpline - I'd like to be able to tell school that these organisations have advised me to apply so that it gives my request more credibility.

Hassled - your comment about LEA not being proactive with statements is exactly my concern. But my argument will be that all I want for my child is that he gets through the school system with his mental health intact and surely that's not too much to ask for. I see examples every day of how much support he needs to stay calm and how quickly he could go off the rails without it. Secondary school is definitely going to challenge his coping skills.

Thanks again.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/04/2008 14:10

SOS;SEN's phone number is 020 8979 8853. They are also useful to have on side re statementing.

KarenThirl · 30/04/2008 14:52

Thanks Attila!

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flyingmum · 30/04/2008 15:50

SOS SEN are brilliant

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