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Mumstheword37 · 04/02/2024 15:20

Hi, was just wondering if anyone’s else’s children have an official or unofficial profile of PDA? I’ve self diagnosed him as they don’t generally give it out as a diagnosis, at least in our area. I’ve been reading up on it a lot and it was like they were describing my son.

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Bradybunch41 · 05/02/2024 05:37

Hi. Yes; my daughter is 4 and was diagnosed autistic with a PDA profile back in November. We went privately, but the psychologist works in NHS. Hope you’re doing okay, it’s not easy. We’ve been practising low demand parenting for 4 months or so and it has had a massive impact at home, so we’re in a much better place.

Usernumber46463746284737383 · 06/02/2024 17:41

My son is autistic and was diagnosed severe so years ago, no official PDA diagnosis alongside it, I hadn’t even heard of PDA until a year or two ago but I believe he has PDA too. I don’t think it’s recognised much in some areas or it might be labelled as demand avoidant rather than PDA.

there’s some good books out there on PDA!

fightingthedogforadonut · 12/02/2024 17:47

@Usernumber46463746284737383

Do you recommend any specific book? I suspect we are in PDA territory....

Exploding · 12/02/2024 22:49

@Bradybunch41 Do you mind if I ask the name of the private psychologist who diagnosed please? Or please PM me if you'd rather not say on here.

My DD is dx ASC and her dx report highlights a PDA profile.

@fightingthedogforadonut these are the books that have helped us so far:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Teachers-Introduction-Pathological-Demand-Avoidance/dp/1787754871

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Declarative-Language-Handbook-Thoughtful-Challenges/dp/1734516208/ref=ascdff_1734516208/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=428017759642&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11680413048023010958&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045999&hvtargid=pla-894552775868&psc=1&mcid=f56c0e6ee5e53b598d7dbaf07ba89e4e&th=1&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=103526073030&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=428017759642&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11680413048023010958&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045999&hvtargid=pla-894552775868

And somewhere online is a PDF of Ruth Fidler's guidance on education for a PDA child, which is really excellent.

fightingthedogforadonut · 13/02/2024 10:27

@Exploding thanks so much!

Mumstheword37 · 13/02/2024 18:14

Yeah, I’ve been practicing low demand parenting for a while now, even before I was aware of PDA, I just instinctively learnt how to handle him, but since I’ve really upped the lowering demand I’ve seen an improvement. My son is very
much a people pleaser and masks at school/outside the home so it’s not obvious at all to an outsider that he’s PDA, but from what I’ve read he absolutely is. I follow a few pda mums/therapists on instagram and they’ve helped a lot too.

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GandTeaForMe · 16/02/2024 21:25

Mumstheword37 · 13/02/2024 18:14

Yeah, I’ve been practicing low demand parenting for a while now, even before I was aware of PDA, I just instinctively learnt how to handle him, but since I’ve really upped the lowering demand I’ve seen an improvement. My son is very
much a people pleaser and masks at school/outside the home so it’s not obvious at all to an outsider that he’s PDA, but from what I’ve read he absolutely is. I follow a few pda mums/therapists on instagram and they’ve helped a lot too.

Would you mind sharing the names of those you follow on insta? I think my daughter has PDA too and just learning. Thanks

Bunnyhair · 17/02/2024 09:35

My DS was diagnosed with PDA age 4. We went privately, to see Judy Eaton at Help4Psychology in Norwich. He’s 7 now. We send him to a small independent school that is very informal and SEND-friendly. No uniform, small class sizes, no pressure to do sports etc.

Age 6 he was also diagnosed with ADHD and is on medikinet which has made a huge difference to his enjoyment of school, and reduces his anxiety a great deal.

It has taken a lot for things to get to a point of stability for us. I’m hardly able to work anymore (I do 2 days a week during school hours and term time only). Holidays are not possible, he’s never been able to go on a drop-off play date or be looked after by a babysitter. He still sleeps in our bed. He needs undivided attention every waking hour - even when he’s on screens (so we need to watch all his shows with him, watch him play his Switch etc or things can escalate very quickly). We dress him in the mornings. We hardly leave the house at weekends / school holidays. We manage to get him bathed about every 2 weeks and that takes a LOT of delicate negotiation. He eats about 4 foods.

But he has a couple of good friends, and goes to school and is learning. And we really weren’t sure a few years ago whether any of that would happen.

He is high masking (‘robotically compliant’ at school, according to his teacher) so nobody apart from his amazing teachers can believe that our life is as difficult and compromised as it is, and people just assume we are shit parents with no boundaries. I’ve had to develop a thicker skin than I’d ever thought possible.

@GandTeaForMe @fightingthedogforadonut here are some helpful resources:

At Peace Parents (Casey Erlich) on Instagram is great with PDA parenting insights.

Steph Curtis (of Steph’s Two Girls blog) has just come out with a book called PDA In The Family which talks about their famoly’s experience - including a chapter from the dad’s point of view, which I thought was helpful. (Her teenage daughter with PDA also contributed a lot to the book and is supportive of her mother’s work in raising awareness.)

The Explosive Child is a book by Ross Greene that has been helpful - but even more helpful is The B Team group on Facebook, where moderators trained in Greene’s approach talk posters through their dilemmas with their children. It’s an incredible resource, and got me through some very tough times.

I tried various PDA parenting support groups on FB but found they can attract some of the angrier PDA adults of the internet, who like to have a pop at parents (mostly mothers) who are still hopeful of having some boundaries and autonomy of their own. So I’d give most of those a swerve.

GandTeaForMe · 17/02/2024 21:32

Bunnyhair · 17/02/2024 09:35

My DS was diagnosed with PDA age 4. We went privately, to see Judy Eaton at Help4Psychology in Norwich. He’s 7 now. We send him to a small independent school that is very informal and SEND-friendly. No uniform, small class sizes, no pressure to do sports etc.

Age 6 he was also diagnosed with ADHD and is on medikinet which has made a huge difference to his enjoyment of school, and reduces his anxiety a great deal.

It has taken a lot for things to get to a point of stability for us. I’m hardly able to work anymore (I do 2 days a week during school hours and term time only). Holidays are not possible, he’s never been able to go on a drop-off play date or be looked after by a babysitter. He still sleeps in our bed. He needs undivided attention every waking hour - even when he’s on screens (so we need to watch all his shows with him, watch him play his Switch etc or things can escalate very quickly). We dress him in the mornings. We hardly leave the house at weekends / school holidays. We manage to get him bathed about every 2 weeks and that takes a LOT of delicate negotiation. He eats about 4 foods.

But he has a couple of good friends, and goes to school and is learning. And we really weren’t sure a few years ago whether any of that would happen.

He is high masking (‘robotically compliant’ at school, according to his teacher) so nobody apart from his amazing teachers can believe that our life is as difficult and compromised as it is, and people just assume we are shit parents with no boundaries. I’ve had to develop a thicker skin than I’d ever thought possible.

@GandTeaForMe @fightingthedogforadonut here are some helpful resources:

At Peace Parents (Casey Erlich) on Instagram is great with PDA parenting insights.

Steph Curtis (of Steph’s Two Girls blog) has just come out with a book called PDA In The Family which talks about their famoly’s experience - including a chapter from the dad’s point of view, which I thought was helpful. (Her teenage daughter with PDA also contributed a lot to the book and is supportive of her mother’s work in raising awareness.)

The Explosive Child is a book by Ross Greene that has been helpful - but even more helpful is The B Team group on Facebook, where moderators trained in Greene’s approach talk posters through their dilemmas with their children. It’s an incredible resource, and got me through some very tough times.

I tried various PDA parenting support groups on FB but found they can attract some of the angrier PDA adults of the internet, who like to have a pop at parents (mostly mothers) who are still hopeful of having some boundaries and autonomy of their own. So I’d give most of those a swerve.

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Thank you! I’m already reading The Explosive Child but didn’t know about At Peace Parents. Two mins on her channel and I feel so seen already. It’s such a relief to hear some of her advice. Thanks 🙏

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