Non walking child at nursery

[morcoccansunset]

Hi all,

My two year old (whose the size of a four year old) cannot walk.

He can crawl and is mobile but can't walk and stand independently.

He's come home from nursery covered in bruises and cuts all over his legs and hands as he's been playing on the the playground and crawling about.

I thought maybe knee pads might be good but unsure how to stop the cuts on his hands

Thanks

Any ideas?

Is he in a specialist nursery @morcoccansunset?

No unfortunately they are all over subscribed where I live so he's just in a normal nursery

What is the flooring made of DD is crawling on outside at nursery?

Have you got physio, OT and specialist teaching service involvement? They should be advising.

Does DD have an EHCP? If so, unless wholly independent, being full is not enough of a reason on its own to refuse to name your preferred placement. The LA has to prove the school is so full admitting DD is incompatible. The bar is higher than many LA’s claim. It is more than an “adverse effect”, “impact on” or “prejudicial to”.

No. He's only started nursery this week as he was in childminders before.

HV said nursery will do the EHCP but he has a special inclusion teacher (or is meant to be).

He has been referred to OT, speech and language and he physio but it's just something for the meantime as they have like a playground (concrete and tarmac) and his hands and legs are all cut up and a mess.

Apologies for writing DD when it is your DS.

You should request an EHCNA now. On their website IPSEA have a model letter you can use. OT and SALT can be part of the EHCNA without sitting on the normal waiting list.

Try to contact the inclusion teacher and if that is a different team to the physical impairment specialist teaching services contact them too. You don’t need an EHCP for this.

The nursery could look at improving the flooring to something kinder. They could look at funding available that would support them making adaptations like this. In the meantime they could get mats to put down.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Resistant-Kitchen-Performance-Protection-Protective/dp/B082V1V9DW/ref=ascdff_B082V1V9DW/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=427942048748&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9332417223779251188&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9044956&hvtargid=pla-907076850681&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=108041153028&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=427942048748&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9332417223779251188&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9044956&hvtargid=pla-907076850681

^ cut resistant gloves

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Meteor-childrens-bike-gloves-MONSTER/dp/B073D5376F/ref=ascdff_B073D5376F/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=372000294234&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9332417223779251188&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9044956&hvtargid=pla-760910744779&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=73275469581&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=372000294234&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9332417223779251188&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9044956&hvtargid=pla-760910744779

^ more gloves

https://www.amazon.co.uk/feuilles-Anti-Slip-Adjustable-Protector-Multicolors/dp/B089K8KT1X/ref=ascdff_B086G52F45/?tag=&linkCode=df0&hvadid=430975433216&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11469347890209159623&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9044956&hvtargid=pla-914202059743&psc=1&ref=&adgrpid=99848847723&th=1

^ knee pads

OP you have my sympathies, I have the exact same issue and it's a nightmare, knees wise I send DD in with thick joggers on but that's really not ideal in this weather. DD refuses to wear gloves, kneepads, hats etc. and with some effort and time is able to take them off herself. This week I'm going to trial sticky sports tape on her knees like a big plaster- I appreciate its a slightly ludicrous idea but if it works I'll let you know.

However she's never come back with cut hands- I would speak to nursery about the surface she's crawling on as it doesn't sound very safe, my DD is very naturally cautious so that may be why her hands are okay as she steers clear of rough surfaces

I'm scurious as to why your child left the childminder to go to nursery?

Long story - also thank you to PP for all the answers and links to knee pads and gloves.

We had the childminder and she was the best but unfortunately due to health issues she only works term time and we had a change in circumstances which meant that wasn't suitable anymore. We did find a place that was a mixture of childminder and nursery basically a childminder with assistants so a bit bigger than normal who said she'd take DS on so we gave notice to our childminder and then the new one backed out saying she couldn't meet my sons needs but by that time my own childminder had filled the spots so he couldn't stay. It was all a massive faff.

I've tried a lot of childminders due to previous bad experiences with nursery but no one could take him on due to his needs so I had no choice really.

Ah, that's sad.

The reason why I was curious, was often Health Visitors recommend nurseries over childminders which doesn't suit all children.

It sounds like a childminder would still be the best setting for your child but if you can't find a good one, what can you do?

Could your child be put in the room with crawling little ones I wonder and they just adjust the curriculum for your child under the "reasonable adjustments" law?

My child was the same and wasn't even crawling when all the other toddlers were running around. It wasn't the appropriate room for her, she should have been put in the baby room but they were having none of it.

After 3 days we pulled her from the nursery as I saw on the cameras the care was substandard and this was the best nursery we'd found after looking around about 10! I ended up paying my sister in law to look after her.

And if your child has potential additional needs, I would start putting pressure on the LA now for support. Portage? EHCP? Just thinking about school starting. In can take years to get a specialist setting.