Randomly shouting out in supermarkets

[Autumnbutstillhot]

Dd, just turned 4…just wanted to check this and other behaviours are for want of a better word, normal.
She will just randomly shout out or fo some silly noises, she does them at home also and often repeats what she’s saying. She gets very excited and finds it v difficult to calm down. She’s v impatient and often shouts and gets upset. When I ask her why she just shouted out, out of nowhere, she says she doesn’t know why.
She loves music videos but wants to watch the same again and again and gets annoyed if we can’t. She’s so hyper at times and takes ages to get to sleep.
Love her so much but the way she acts is so difficult at times, Dh especially has no patience for the noises she makes etc and says she’s being silly, I’m worried in case it’s something else.

She needs assessing OP. Start it off, it takes a while. The sooner her needs are understood the better.

She isn't being naughty or doing it deliberately.

She’s been suffering with constipation and being impacted and gas etc and I can see her behaviour is way worse when she’s suffering, but I think it’s sometimes when she’s not too…it’s so hard to tell

Could be both, there are fair amounts of cross over for some symptoms. Try the adhd and asd screeners on this page: psychology-tools.com/

@gamerchick I know she isn’t…it’s just so hard and I don’t understand how sometimes she doesn’t do any of these things and is the way she was before…days on end at times?

@gamerchick Do you think it definitely sounds like an issue?
I asked the teacher and she says it’s age and many are like this. Also why did it only start more recently, wouldn’t she have shown signs when little?

I would say signs of ASD due to repetitive behaviour / tics and difficulty sleeping. You could do some of your own research into ASD / ADHD and know what to look out for. She may grow out of it if it’s not ASD but it helps to know the signs to get earlier help

At 4 you would be lucky to get assessed with just the symptoms the OP has described! Unless you are made of money of course then it’s all different.
Have you tried to get an ASD assessment for even an older child recently? Even a child with far far greater more obvious symptoms? Takes a year at least and that with a. 10 year old displaying symptoms for years!

I’ve just looked up echolalia as wasn’t sure what it was, it doesn’t sound like what she’s doing really, it’s hard to explain, she just does sort of silly sounding noises sometimes like Eh Eh then when I ask why she’s doing it, she says she doesn’t know or she’s being a dog.
She doesn’t have repetitive behaviour but does like to watch the same songs over and over (but this could be because she likes them, we all maybe do this 🤷🏻‍♀️) I just don’t know.
During these *Phases, she often acts in a more babyish way and is hard to control, she doesn’t listen and acts in quite an annoying way, that sounds awful I know, I just don’t how to explain it properly,

@PurpleWisteria1 I’m not sure if I’d say she has tics though?
With the sometimes taking an hour or two to sleep, it’s calming her down as she always wants to play

It may just be discomfort due to dietary issues, or it could be ASD, or it could be a combination, or just a phase, or a different medical issue.
We moved from the UK before DD was assessed, but I had spoken to her GP and was told that it would be worth a referral with similar concerns. DD was about 4 1/2 at the time. The wait times are so long that it is probably worth asking for a referral asap, keeping.a diary of food/activities/behavior and if everything calms down, you just get yourself removed from the waiting list.

Every person has different moods and good or bad days - and this affects any medical or emotional behaviours that they display. So, of course, your DD can show varied behaviour. It is also very hard to see variation in development until a certain age, unless someone has a quite severe medical problem, so this is very typically the age when children start to be assessed. Starting school is often the time when it's possible to see if children are able to settle down.

Be prepared for years of frustration and not really knowing - it's hard, but she is still your lovable DD.

No advice @Autumnbutstillhot but I'm reading with interest as the behaviour you describe in your Dd fits my DS4 perfectly.

He is everything you describe, right down to the echolalic stuff in the supermarket.
He can be calm but it's rare and definitely not if he's tired or overestimated.

I suspect he has ADHD, he's just started in Reception after a very good preschool. It has not been mentioned to me 'yet', but I think it may be coming.

It's just the two of us at home and I have to keep good routines with him or it all goes to pot. We have a visual calender, use timers for tasks and lots of getting stuff ready in advance so I can concentrate on motivating him to work through tasks. He does not like transitions nor changes to his routines so this all has to be communicated well in advance, can't rush him at all or it's very big meltdown time.

Possibly look at dance classes or sport activity. This could help calm down energy levels. As for bedtime try, not saying you don't already, sticking to that bedtime routine, get her of the electronics etc... A good few hours before bed; encourage her to read a bedtime story with you to try calm her down before sleep.

@Captainmarvel0160 We've always done the same routine..teeth, bath (not every night) into bed, stories, lights out with star & music projector on. It can take her ages to settle to brush her teeth and then she’s running around, then she wants food, even though she’s eaten before bed etc

@Captainmarvel0160 She does gymnastics once per week also, perhaps I should add dance too

@WankBadger5000 Yes, it’s definitely worse if tired, I noticed that from v young, almost complete meltdowns, but they weren’t that often. What other things does he do? It’s just so exhausting isn’t it, I also feel for her so much as now after a meltdown she’ll often cry and come for cuddles 🥲
She just never stops, weekends she wants to play all day, this is after walks out with the dog, the beach, playing with friends at the playground etc
We’ve noticed if she gets too excited, she just can’t calm down at all, really not sure how to help her. The teacher just says they calm down at 5 and all is ok

Before you start going all SEN on the poor kid, maybe take away the silly YouTube videos?

@KickAssAngel Was your child similar, did you find anything out?

@Noviembre Nice.

They weren’t silly Youtube videos, we love music in our house and she’s always listened to music in the car and played with musical instruments etc.
Most music now comes from the tv, she enjoys watching songs from Superman and as I said the Coldplay video with elephants, none of them are silly videos, it’s just music and she loves to dance around the room to it with us. I also remember loving music and dancing from an early age

*Spiderman

Sounds like vocal tics or vocal stims rather than echolalia.
If she doesn’t have any physical tics such as eye blinking, head shaking then it’s not classed as Tourette’s, but it’s something to keep an eye out for.
Children often get transient tics so it may pass, but with the other things mentioned it’s worth getting her assessed for any underlying neurodiversites.

Oh just seen she repeats herself - that can be palilalia and again linked to both Tourette’s and ASD.

@Boxin Why do children do them, what does she need/want to do it for? Just want to understand and help her. It always seems to be in the supermarket if it happens, also in the swimming pool/water

Children that age love watching things on repeat. It's how the soak stuff in

@Boxin She can say a sentence four or five times, especially if she’s excited…I don’t know, I can see this being general children’s behaviour but I’m not sure

My son does these things and is autistic.