Randomly shouting out in supermarkets

[Autumnbutstillhot]

Dd, just turned 4…just wanted to check this and other behaviours are for want of a better word, normal.
She will just randomly shout out or fo some silly noises, she does them at home also and often repeats what she’s saying. She gets very excited and finds it v difficult to calm down. She’s v impatient and often shouts and gets upset. When I ask her why she just shouted out, out of nowhere, she says she doesn’t know why.
She loves music videos but wants to watch the same again and again and gets annoyed if we can’t. She’s so hyper at times and takes ages to get to sleep.
Love her so much but the way she acts is so difficult at times, Dh especially has no patience for the noises she makes etc and says she’s being silly, I’m worried in case it’s something else.

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Music videos as in pop music videos? Surely they're not appropriate for 4 year old if that's what you meant?

If she is having a lot of screen time I would totally cut it out (and I mean totally cut it out) and see what happens.

@Dacadactyl She doesn’t have a lot of screen time, she loves music and likes to listen to pop music, I’m fine with that. She has so much outdoors time in nature, lots of running around, reading etc

@Dacadactyl Do you think that’s causing it?

I’m not anti screen time but a lot of pop videos are very full on.
Is there anything a bit more calming she could watch ?

It's abit usual at 4. However every child if different. Maybe direct her to help with the shopping. Any other concerns.

If she likes dancing you can make a playlist of safe videos or a spotify playlist. Mine absolutely loves it and is out in the garden dancing right now.

Also, tell your DH to do one. Noises are part and parcel of learning language. Even at four.

I'm an autistic adult and sometimes blurt out echolalic phrases in overstimulating situations eg supermarkets. I don't know if it's a normal developmental stage though.

It might be worth having a chat with her health visitor. All of those behaviours could be seen as normal and nothing to worry about, and they probably are, but they could also point towards an autistic spectrum condition.

I don't know but it might be worthwhile doing a food diary and adjusting her diet? Seeing if there are any changes. It is the first thing I would be thinking about anyway. Her behaviours could link to something else as well, maybe a behaviour/diet diary can start to look at patterns?

That all sounds very worrying for you. Has she always been like this or did the vocal tics, hyperactivity, sleep problems, getting upset & shouting, etc all kick off at some point?

Her teacher says she has days where she doesn’t stop and then calmer days, she says not to worry and that at age 5, that usually all calms down and she’s still v young? She just didn’t used to do this until perhaps within the last year

@HypaHypa Thats it, she loves music and dancing, but also loves watching them also-they’ve all been safe videos…quite dull, eg-Coldplay and the paradise video with the elephants in etc

What kind of music videos is she watching? Encanto or more women gyrating in thongs?

I'd be wondering if this was a tic. My son is NT but went through a couple of tics. He was doing these subconsciously rather than an attention thing where she's hoping people will laugh. If you want to ask about tics then the Special Needs forum might be the place to ask.

@Girlattheback Shes always been high energy and hard to get to sleep at times when younger (not always) but the odd noises etc (these aren’t all the time) was perhaps a year ago but not as much until recently, does it sound really worrying?

It could be something, ASD/ADHD for example, or it could be nothing. I would just keep a note of everything unusual you notice about her behaviour and see what happens as she gets older. These things tend to become more obvious as they age particularly as they get towards secondary age.

@PeekAtYou Wouldn't let her watch videos like that, she likes some songs from Spider-Man and Coldplay songs

How bad is the sleeping? How much does she fidget?

As the mum of an autistic son and having been heavily involved in our local asd & adhd parents support group, it's something I'd keep an eye on tbh. Echolalia, repetitive habits and needs, high impulsiveness, sleep issues, all suggest that monitoring her development over the next year or so much be appropriate. There are various adhd and asd screening questionnaires online that might help you marshall some thoughts.

Which is why I asked what I did. My GC who has ADHD, was high energy, overemotional, fidgets and does all sorts of random noises.

She’s not like this all the time though, which in confusing, it’s definitely worse if she’s had less sleep. When she’s going through these phases, she doesn’t seem to eat properly, as in she spills her yoghurt everywhere or puts her hands in it etc and just generally strange behaviour. She’s been able to eat properly since she was very young, she’s v independent, talked really early, really outgoing and confident etc..she knows how to eat properly

@Ponoka7 It varies tbh, she often messes around so much at bedtime and just constantly wants to play…everyone has always remarked how she never stops. Generally once she’s asleep, she’s asleep until the morning though. She’s v highly strung and seems to get angrier/upset easily the last half a year…she wasn’t like this when little (only the high energy) which is why I’m confused.
I’m just finding every single thing difficult with her the last 6 months or so…getting ready takes forever, getting to sleep, her behaviour, just all so hard

Should I ask for this to be moved to the special needs section? Where do I ask?

It isn't.

@LostAtTheCrossRoad But are they signs of adhd or ASD? What can I do to help her, it’s just so difficult

I'd keep a diary for 6 months or so and, if you have any concerns, then you can go to your GP for a referral.
Sounds very much like my youngest twin. She has suspected ADHD/Autism.