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Flapping, fidgeting, muttering, poor concentration and inappropriate conversations - not looking good is it?

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bobsmum · 11/12/2007 22:25

Not posted on this board I don't think, but have asked for help on and off over the last year or so.

Now it's kind of reaching a crisis point and I'd like some advice and info from folks in the know

Ds is 5 and has been in P1 since August. He has had an involvement with an Ed Psych since last Sept when his nursery referred him.

Now he's on 3rd stage of staged intervention (4th being a statement) and has a full time learning support person in the classroom and in the playground.

He is keeping up with his peers easily with reading/writing/numbers etc. He excels in music.

But his class teacher in particular finds him incredibly disruptive and hard to manage.

He mutters under his breath a lot and repeats words he likes the sounds of or sings constantly. He cannot sit still or keep on task for any length of time. He's more than capable of doing what he's asked but instead scribbles, says it's boring and tantrums.

I've had 2 letters home in the last 2 days saying his behaviour is unacceptable and he is being cheeky and using inappropriate language with staff. When probed, ds confessed he's called a teacher 'smelly cheese" which hardly seems the crime of the century, but I get the impression this backchat is constant.

He can't sit still and flaps (this is getting worse) when he sees things moving or is excited about things.

Obviously Autism has been mentioned a few times over the last year or so, but my mum's an OT and an Autism specialist and she has her doubts.

So what now?

The Ed Psych is coming back to observe before Easter and until then I'm getting constant complaints about the naughtiest boy in the school.

He's not uncontrollable at home. He needs to be told things several times, but otherwise is very obliging, affectionate and eager to please. At school he doesn't give a damn apparently. But he says he loves it.

OP posts:
Blossomhill · 20/12/2007 23:43

mumfun ~ have to say gp's really don't have a clue about asd's and EP's are far more knowledgable (sp?)

Mumfun · 23/12/2007 20:26

Thx Blossomhill

I did suspect that the GP wasnt really right as he was determined that DS had to be showing classic autism signs to be aspergers whereas I understand aspergers to be somewhat different.

Im not really sure re the EP as I thought she was on the ball when I met her but her report seemed poor tbh.

But we will see how things go over the next while.

Blossomhill · 24/12/2007 10:55

That is so wrong of your gp mf. My dd had a massive assessment when she was 7 by someone very high up in the field of asd's and it took her 6 months to make a final decision.
My dd is nothing like a child with classic autism. She has Aspergers and I do think there is a big difference.

SparklePrincess · 24/12/2007 15:05

Sounds like he is at a fantastic school to be given so much support without even having any diagnosis. You & he are very lucky.
My dd (aged 6 in yr 2) is very similar to your ds & has no help whatsoever at school. As far as theyre concerned, no diagnosis no problem. But there very clearly is a problem from the secondhand information I get from my elder dd, & the fact that I do know my own child & how she behaves.
I am now in the process of getting her assessed for ADHD through CAMHS. Is your ds seeing CAMHS?

flyingmum · 28/12/2007 11:37

Your children sound very similar to mine at the same age. The changing thing really rang true. He can be the easiest child in the world at home but a different story at school. Anyway, he's now nearly 13 (eek - how did that happen???) and the gap between home and school has narrowed. He also, to my mind, does not fit the classic description of either Asperger's or HFASD but quite clearly is. He also has visual and auditory processing difficulties and is very dyspraxic. The visual processing difficulties were unknown about for quite some time but really accounts for a lot of the behaviour because he can't see what we see - so in maths with diagrams, etc, its just a jumble. Now he understands his difficulties he thinks of strategies to cope. It will get better that's all I wanted to say. The home thing has had it's advantages - he's brilliant at cooking and housework!!!

whenachildisbob · 02/01/2008 17:22

What's Camhs?

twocutedarlings · 02/01/2008 17:57

Child and adolescent mental health services

catok · 04/01/2008 23:33

It seems really hard to find a route through the professionals. Took us forever to get Asperger's + dyspraxia diagnosis; going to gp and telling of intense stress for whole family (no sleep etc) got referral to CAMHS but took more than 6 months for assessment to happen and I gather that is quick!
If not Asd you should get to find out what problems are. Does he know he's the 'naughtiest boy in the school'? What a thing to say!
Good luck!

Mumfun · 17/06/2009 13:25

Have resurrected old thread as was interested in how everyone on here was doing!

We are now awaiting CAMHS appointment for DS. The EP and school feel his development has gone more and more towards him being likely to have aspergers.

he doing well academically but finds socialising sometimes challenging, prefers girls company and is flapping worse than ever. The EP has never seen flapping like it and really not sure what to do.

Still a happy lovely boy a pleasure to live with!

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