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snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 09:22

hi sorry for the topic .. i dont know mild autism is the right word or not but i have an appointment for my 22 months old son. Doctor had test over his behaviour and her answer basically was" he has some autistic behaviour very very mild i believe 6-8 months therapy( aba therapy) he would grow out of it completely."

is it true? can he grow out of it ? i dont wanna offence or upset anyone just want him to has his best life not a hard life.

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Tal45 · 06/07/2021 10:03

I'm guessing you're not in the UK? My advice as a mum of one with asd is that yours is very little, who knows how he going to develop. 'Mild' autism would not be diagnosed in the UK at that age and whoever is telling you it can be grown out of with therapy is grossly misinformed. Please don't get advice from them again, likely all they want is for you to give them lots of money for therapy. ABA therapy is very controversial, it tries to train the autism out of children. It might help them appear more 'normal' but it's just a veneer. For example they might have it drummed into them over and over that when they meet someone new they say 'hello how are you' but they may have no idea why they are saying it or that they should wait for a response or how to respond after that.

If your lo is autistic then he is autistic and it is not possible to grow out of it or be trained out of it with ABA therapy. Can I ask what traits he is showing that you are concerned about?

snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 10:16

@Tal45

I'm guessing you're not in the UK? My advice as a mum of one with asd is that yours is very little, who knows how he going to develop. 'Mild' autism would not be diagnosed in the UK at that age and whoever is telling you it can be grown out of with therapy is grossly misinformed. Please don't get advice from them again, likely all they want is for you to give them lots of money for therapy. ABA therapy is very controversial, it tries to train the autism out of children. It might help them appear more 'normal' but it's just a veneer. For example they might have it drummed into them over and over that when they meet someone new they say 'hello how are you' but they may have no idea why they are saying it or that they should wait for a response or how to respond after that.

If your lo is autistic then he is autistic and it is not possible to grow out of it or be trained out of it with ABA therapy. Can I ask what traits he is showing that you are concerned about?

hi Tal45 thank you for your respond.

funny enough i am living in uk. my 22 months old very happy little boy have lots of words knows numbers colours, has eye contact can point and show, loves cuddles and his food :)
however lack of answer his name, never pass toys to me, if he wants something he doesnt look my eyes just trying to push me, doesnt have any worry when he goes somewhere where am i- he can easily leave me and run away- only listen when he wants to etc.

i took him doctor here and you know how process is slow so i took him private doctor in different coutry. this doctor is professor in university very very good doctor thats why i chose her. she cant earn any money over me because i have to find therapist in uk thats why i dont think she did for money.
i am very grateful you explained your experience with aba . now i am more confused what to do..

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snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 10:18

@Tal45

I'm guessing you're not in the UK? My advice as a mum of one with asd is that yours is very little, who knows how he going to develop. 'Mild' autism would not be diagnosed in the UK at that age and whoever is telling you it can be grown out of with therapy is grossly misinformed. Please don't get advice from them again, likely all they want is for you to give them lots of money for therapy. ABA therapy is very controversial, it tries to train the autism out of children. It might help them appear more 'normal' but it's just a veneer. For example they might have it drummed into them over and over that when they meet someone new they say 'hello how are you' but they may have no idea why they are saying it or that they should wait for a response or how to respond after that.

If your lo is autistic then he is autistic and it is not possible to grow out of it or be trained out of it with ABA therapy. Can I ask what traits he is showing that you are concerned about?

actually this was my first post couple of weeks ago.

ello everyone,
i need some help about my concerns.
my ds is 22 months old. he has so many words, can count to 10 in two languages, knows colours, knows most of the animals name, knows some shapes, if i say show me he would show most of the stuff. loves his food, smiles to other kids. he loves cuddles, would run and give me a cuddle and big smile.

however,

he doesn't respond his name, he calls his daddy but never says mummy, doesn't share his toys or joy with me he loves to play himself. most importantly he doesn't take any command. if i say bring to me he would not do it. he is not listening he always busy with his own things.
if we go park he would easily leave me and run away and would not care where am i.
he has repatative behavior. runs up down in the room or lay on the floor and watch his car.

we took him to doctor and she thought there is some red flags . for example when he was there he just run in there didn't even look at her or didn't get worried where is he or where is daddy.
didnt look at his name .
when we said but he does all this good things as well she said she is not there to look for positives she needs concentrate to negative things he does.
she said she cant say he is autistic but she thinks he is in spectrum which i dont undertand what is even that mean.

i am very very confused. please share your own experiences.

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10brokengreenbottles · 06/07/2021 10:33

There's no such thing as 'mild autism', neither can it be grown out of.

If you didn't want to join the NHS waiting list, why didn't you go privately within the UK with someone who also does NHS work?

The doctor may be a professor, but obviously has very different views of autism compared to those in this country? What country was it?

snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 10:39

@10brokengreenbottles

There's no such thing as 'mild autism', neither can it be grown out of.

If you didn't want to join the NHS waiting list, why didn't you go privately within the UK with someone who also does NHS work?

The doctor may be a professor, but obviously has very different views of autism compared to those in this country? What country was it?

i didn't go here because same level doctor cost here £400-£500 and i cant afford it but with exchange rate i was able to cover it in another country.

it shock me as well maybe i will seek another professional advice.

Thank you.

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Ellie56 · 06/07/2021 10:56

Yes sorry as PP have said there is no such thing as mild autism. And as it is a neurological condition, a child with autism will become an adult with autism.

While it is true that with the right support and education, a child will develop and change and learn coping strategies, they will not "grow out" of autism; it is an integral part of who they are.

Tal45 · 06/07/2021 11:01

I would just be patient, honestly he is so young, it could be something or it could be nothing. Why don't you speak to your health visitor if you haven't already? Tell them your concerns and what happened with the doctor abroad and get their take on it. Things will be slow here but you've flagged it up very early, you don't need to go private IMO because there is no advantage to a diagnosis at this age, better to get it a bit later when it is clearer. Just treat him like normal and enjoy him. There is nothing anyone can do to make him 'less autistic' if he does have autism.

Tal45 · 06/07/2021 11:12

@Ellie56

Yes sorry as PP have said there is no such thing as mild autism. And as it is a neurological condition, a child with autism will become an adult with autism.

While it is true that with the right support and education, a child will develop and change and learn coping strategies, they will not "grow out" of autism; it is an integral part of who they are.

Yes having coping skills and being encouraged to remember social skills is much better IMO than the sort of rote learning drummed in in ABA therapy. But he's still only a toddler so you don't need to worry about that now as he is young and the sort of coping skills he needs if he is autistic won't be complicated IMO. Things like putting on ear defenders or having a quiet space to go to if a situation is too noisy, sitting at the front of the class if he can't block out distractions, having a fiddle toy, remembering to say hello back to people and remembering to say please and thankyou.
starfishmummy · 06/07/2021 11:30

@10brokengreenbottles

There's no such thing as 'mild autism', neither can it be grown out of.

If you didn't want to join the NHS waiting list, why didn't you go privately within the UK with someone who also does NHS work?

The doctor may be a professor, but obviously has very different views of autism compared to those in this country? What country was it?

I am always suspicious kf the term "mild" added to anything. In my experience (and I am a SN mum) its usually said by parents who are in total denial about their child's SN.

In this case I suspect it means that as yet no one has discovered what, if anything, is wrong.

SausagePourHomme · 06/07/2021 11:33

You cant train someone out of a neurological condition. Only teach them that they will be punished or corrected when they display traits that they have no choice in.

LightTripper · 06/07/2021 12:17

Totally agree with all the responses above.

If you want to "do" something, I think there are things you can do that won't cause harm (whether he is or isn't autistic) and may be helpful.

My first suggestion would be to read up on sensory issues, and figure out if your son has particular sensory sensitivities or needs that you can help him find ways to meet. E.g. our daughter had very sensitive proprioception so she was slow to stand and walk and then later very hesitant on play equipment (hated soft play when she was little and would never go on a climbing frame). We took her to Gymboree (usually with younger children!) and the equipment there is all very safe and soft so she could explore and build her confidence in baby steps, rather than on a playground climbing frame over a hard surface. She liked the classes as they build a story/imaginary world, which she found engaging, and they have bubbles and parachute play which she loved, and they weren't too "pushy" that she had to do particularly things in a particular way - but just encouraged her to try things. Some activities she just watched for the longest time, but eventually she wanted to give most things a try. She is a pretty happy climber and jumper now, much more confident in her body than she was, rides a bike, etc. Her proprioception is still a bit wonky I'm sure (as is mine), but it's not stopping her enjoying the world any more, or stopping her being safe in it, so it's fine.

We also got this book from the library which has some good ideas in: obviously go for something first that fits with your DS's interests as he's more likely to find that fun and engaging (maybe substitute toy cars into one of the games, for example, if he likes those):

www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/books/tara-delaney/101-games-and-activities-for-children-with-autism-asperger-s-and-sensory-process/9780071623360?gclid=CjwKCAjw_o-HBhAsEiwANqYhp7MHvB_huA072NocfYREyWG9OnxJeQTgAKi0zFf4_iKh4E9u3bag1hoCxQoQAvD_BwE

I also like the Nurturing Neurodiversity YouTube channel. She has a couple of videos on making activities engaging/fun if your son doesn't generally want to involve you in his play.

www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbjLeX_GUAhBp8YA4-JDlBzPdSWnbAGb_

As @Tal45 says, a lot of it is about learning self-care and some specific skills to cope with whatever specific things your son finds difficult as he gets older (and encouraging him in the things he finds fascinating!) And for that all you can really do is watch and learn as he grows, and keep reading and posting places like here.

snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 13:03

@Tal45

I would just be patient, honestly he is so young, it could be something or it could be nothing. Why don't you speak to your health visitor if you haven't already? Tell them your concerns and what happened with the doctor abroad and get their take on it. Things will be slow here but you've flagged it up very early, you don't need to go private IMO because there is no advantage to a diagnosis at this age, better to get it a bit later when it is clearer. Just treat him like normal and enjoy him. There is nothing anyone can do to make him 'less autistic' if he does have autism.
thank you for your kind response, i have been already contact with them but because it takes so long thats why i went to private one too.

if he needs help obviously i dont want to ignore it and not just a random person said to me get aba therapy very qualified person advice this.. now i feel so confused because of comments.

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snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 13:03

@SausagePourHomme

You cant train someone out of a neurological condition. Only teach them that they will be punished or corrected when they display traits that they have no choice in.
so you think therapy is a bad thing ?
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snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 13:06

@starfishmummy mild is not my word as i mention above doctor said this.. if i deny anything exist i would not trying to find help for him.

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snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 13:12

@LightTripper

Totally agree with all the responses above.

If you want to "do" something, I think there are things you can do that won't cause harm (whether he is or isn't autistic) and may be helpful.

My first suggestion would be to read up on sensory issues, and figure out if your son has particular sensory sensitivities or needs that you can help him find ways to meet. E.g. our daughter had very sensitive proprioception so she was slow to stand and walk and then later very hesitant on play equipment (hated soft play when she was little and would never go on a climbing frame). We took her to Gymboree (usually with younger children!) and the equipment there is all very safe and soft so she could explore and build her confidence in baby steps, rather than on a playground climbing frame over a hard surface. She liked the classes as they build a story/imaginary world, which she found engaging, and they have bubbles and parachute play which she loved, and they weren't too "pushy" that she had to do particularly things in a particular way - but just encouraged her to try things. Some activities she just watched for the longest time, but eventually she wanted to give most things a try. She is a pretty happy climber and jumper now, much more confident in her body than she was, rides a bike, etc. Her proprioception is still a bit wonky I'm sure (as is mine), but it's not stopping her enjoying the world any more, or stopping her being safe in it, so it's fine.

We also got this book from the library which has some good ideas in: obviously go for something first that fits with your DS's interests as he's more likely to find that fun and engaging (maybe substitute toy cars into one of the games, for example, if he likes those):

www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/books/tara-delaney/101-games-and-activities-for-children-with-autism-asperger-s-and-sensory-process/9780071623360?gclid=CjwKCAjw_o-HBhAsEiwANqYhp7MHvB_huA072NocfYREyWG9OnxJeQTgAKi0zFf4_iKh4E9u3bag1hoCxQoQAvD_BwE

I also like the Nurturing Neurodiversity YouTube channel. She has a couple of videos on making activities engaging/fun if your son doesn't generally want to involve you in his play.

www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbjLeX_GUAhBp8YA4-JDlBzPdSWnbAGb_

As @Tal45 says, a lot of it is about learning self-care and some specific skills to cope with whatever specific things your son finds difficult as he gets older (and encouraging him in the things he finds fascinating!) And for that all you can really do is watch and learn as he grows, and keep reading and posting places like here.

thank you very much sharing your experience with me. be honest i cant see any sensory issues with him at least not yet. His issues more like not listening or doesnt respond his name which i am always trying and trying to help him.

i will have a look at these links and will read it . but doctor said just get therapy for him now all these comments make me think does he really need to? or this gonna affect him badly? looks like people against to aba therapy.

if he is autistic he is autistic i am not gonna deny or just sit and cry. i am going trough what doctor said but some people thinks i am trying to make him less autistic than he is which is impossible anyway !

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FatCatThinCat · 06/07/2021 13:27

As an autistic parent of 2 autistic children, and having seen ABA therapy in action, I can honestly say I would never put my children through that unless it was to stop behaviour which was seriously doing them harm. It brutal and to me it's about meeting the needs of other people not the needs of a child. ie child won't make eye contact so torment them until they do and do it enough times so they always make eye contact in order to avoid being tormented.

As for the rest, sorry but any 'expert' who claims that a child can be trained out of being autistic doesn't have a clue about autism. Any 'diagnosis' they make is as reliable as one scribbled out on the back of a beer mat by some random down the pub.

LightTripper · 06/07/2021 13:30

The problem with ABA therapy is that the "targets" you (or they) choose to work on may well be unhelpful or traumatising. E.g. lots of therapists will target things like eye contact, or suppressing stims (e.g. running back and forth or lying on the floor looking at his car). But this kind of misses the point: eye contact is something that lots of neurotypical people find aids conversation. Most autistic people find it is either not helpful or actively unhelpful. So yes, you can train an autistic person to give eye contact - but it is likely to distract rather than aid the "bigger goal" of actual communication. Similarly you can train somebody out of a stim: but the stim is there to meet a need - so unless you find another way to meet the need instead then getting rid of the stim is harming the person.

We actually did do ABA with our daughter when she was little (distance based - so we "did" the "therapy", guided by a consultant). In some ways it was helpful (we learned how to break things down into small steps, and how to model things - neither of which are specifically ABA but our therapist was more generally helpful). But there were points where they asked e.g. if we would like to target removing a stim, or they were asking us to measure things that just seemed objectively unmeasurable, that I started to question it and lose confidence.

I know it's really reassuring to have an outside "expert" guiding you (I get it, that's what we did). But it's very expensive, a lot of the advice will just be parenting, and some of it may be actively harmful unless you are very careful and really do your research. Given your DS seems to be doing pretty well overall, I think people are just worried that the risks would potentially really outweigh the benefits.

I would stay on all the NHS lists and see if he gets a Dx and what help is available. In the meantime, see if there are any local Facebook groups supporting SEN parents - you may be able to meet some people locally that way to connect with, which is always helpful when you have worries. The Nurturing Neurodiversity Facebook group is also useful for connecting with other parents who suspect their kids are autistic (many of them also young kids, pre-diagnosis).

Honestly my daughter still (age 7) often doesn't answer to her name. In fact, looking back this was one of her targets in ABA and obviously it wasn't very effective. I still have to ask her about 5 times what she wants for breakfast. I don't think she's ever in her life told me she's hungry or thirsty (unlike DS who is 4 and will remind me of his needs on an almost constant basis :). She's just wrapped up in what she's interested in. A bit the "absent minded professor type", you know? I can almost see the tendrils....: the-art-of-autism.com/why-its-hard-to-switch-tasks-a-comic-strip-explanation/

It can be frustrating as a parent (even though I'm very similar myself). But so far at least it hasn't held her back from making friends or doing well at school (and she hasn't actually expired of hunger or thirst), so I try not to worry too much. As she gets older I think experience will teach her when she needs to have her "radar" on for external stimuli, and when she can safely focus on her activity to the exclusion of everything else. I think/hope that's what I've now learned to do as an adult - it just takes time.

snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 13:38

@FatCatThinCat

As an autistic parent of 2 autistic children, and having seen ABA therapy in action, I can honestly say I would never put my children through that unless it was to stop behaviour which was seriously doing them harm. It brutal and to me it's about meeting the needs of other people not the needs of a child. ie child won't make eye contact so torment them until they do and do it enough times so they always make eye contact in order to avoid being tormented.

As for the rest, sorry but any 'expert' who claims that a child can be trained out of being autistic doesn't have a clue about autism. Any 'diagnosis' they make is as reliable as one scribbled out on the back of a beer mat by some random down the pub.

this message was very helpful thank you very much. i would not put my little one something to harm him just because i want him to be normal(!). this is in my eyes very cruel. i am so happy to hear some experiences before i decide what to do.

i think meantime i will just carry on what i am doing already and will do my best. wishing you best with your kids x

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snoobydoo · 06/07/2021 13:44

@LightTripper

The problem with ABA therapy is that the "targets" you (or they) choose to work on may well be unhelpful or traumatising. E.g. lots of therapists will target things like eye contact, or suppressing stims (e.g. running back and forth or lying on the floor looking at his car). But this kind of misses the point: eye contact is something that lots of neurotypical people find aids conversation. Most autistic people find it is either not helpful or actively unhelpful. So yes, you can train an autistic person to give eye contact - but it is likely to distract rather than aid the "bigger goal" of actual communication. Similarly you can train somebody out of a stim: but the stim is there to meet a need - so unless you find another way to meet the need instead then getting rid of the stim is harming the person.

We actually did do ABA with our daughter when she was little (distance based - so we "did" the "therapy", guided by a consultant). In some ways it was helpful (we learned how to break things down into small steps, and how to model things - neither of which are specifically ABA but our therapist was more generally helpful). But there were points where they asked e.g. if we would like to target removing a stim, or they were asking us to measure things that just seemed objectively unmeasurable, that I started to question it and lose confidence.

I know it's really reassuring to have an outside "expert" guiding you (I get it, that's what we did). But it's very expensive, a lot of the advice will just be parenting, and some of it may be actively harmful unless you are very careful and really do your research. Given your DS seems to be doing pretty well overall, I think people are just worried that the risks would potentially really outweigh the benefits.

I would stay on all the NHS lists and see if he gets a Dx and what help is available. In the meantime, see if there are any local Facebook groups supporting SEN parents - you may be able to meet some people locally that way to connect with, which is always helpful when you have worries. The Nurturing Neurodiversity Facebook group is also useful for connecting with other parents who suspect their kids are autistic (many of them also young kids, pre-diagnosis).

Honestly my daughter still (age 7) often doesn't answer to her name. In fact, looking back this was one of her targets in ABA and obviously it wasn't very effective. I still have to ask her about 5 times what she wants for breakfast. I don't think she's ever in her life told me she's hungry or thirsty (unlike DS who is 4 and will remind me of his needs on an almost constant basis :). She's just wrapped up in what she's interested in. A bit the "absent minded professor type", you know? I can almost see the tendrils....: the-art-of-autism.com/why-its-hard-to-switch-tasks-a-comic-strip-explanation/

It can be frustrating as a parent (even though I'm very similar myself). But so far at least it hasn't held her back from making friends or doing well at school (and she hasn't actually expired of hunger or thirst), so I try not to worry too much. As she gets older I think experience will teach her when she needs to have her "radar" on for external stimuli, and when she can safely focus on her activity to the exclusion of everything else. I think/hope that's what I've now learned to do as an adult - it just takes time.

first of all thank you for taking your time and sharing your knowledge with me.

i was planning to get him therapy which is cost a lot in private ( i was planning to use savings ) but after reading all these comments and experiences i think i will just slow down and wait little bit more. i am doing my best already with my husband .

i am glad your dd doing well now. how long she get therapy when she was a little? which behaviour were target? i would appreciate if you dont mind to share.

swear to god dont mind he is autistic or not. i just want to help him if i can do anything for him thats why i am keep searching. everyone says 36 months so important so i dont want to be regret later on why i didnt seek any help.

overall i love him to bits. i love him how he is, i am just trying to be a good mum not to ignore stuff so i can be there for him.

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LightTripper · 06/07/2021 23:06

To begin with it was basically asking for things, turn taking games, conversation skills. She was about 3 when we started. She later did some SLT at her nursery which was better on this stuff I think, and she also did some sequencing (putting stories into the right order) which is supposed to help with conversation too. We did quite a lot of those Orchard board games (Red Dog Blue Dog, Dotty Dinosaurs, etc.) which she liked and were fun. She liked Pop Up Pirates at school I think so they used that for turn taking practice with peers when she was little.

Later we moved on to more practical skills (using visual prompts to help her get herself ready in the morning) and some stuff on regulating/processing her emotions which I actually felt was more useful.

On practical skills we learned a technique called "backward chaining" which was useful. E.g. if you want your child to learn to put their own coat on, you start by getting them to just pull up the zip the last little bit. Then you leave the zip a bit more undone, then a bit more. Then once they are confident with that you teach them to put the two bits of the zip together. Then you start to teach them to put the coat on (e.g. letting them do the second arm - or laying out the coat for the "flip" technique but getting them to put their own arms in and flip it), etc. etc. until they can do the whole thing themselves. The idea is they get the satisfaction of finishing the task right from the start - and then you just build up the skill level bit by bit until they can do it all. Again, that's not ABA (I think it's really an Occupational Therapy technique), but it's something that they put us on to. You can Google it.

On the emotional regulation they put us onto some good books and suggested journaling with her, which we did for quite a long time and really gave me some good insights into how she was feeling about things. She was older by then of course (4ish?) She would tell us one good thing and one bad thing that happened in the day, and one new thing (she was very hesitant about new experiences at the time, and the idea was to reflect on the fact that a lot of new experiences actually turned out to be fun in the end - including things that were only a tiny bit new). She'd tell us what to write and then choose something for me to draw a picture of, which she really liked so was a big selling point for doing the diary/talking about the day.

It makes me think actually that I should do a bit with DS, as she has all these cute diaries to look back on now that DS won't have!

Anyway, hope that gives you an idea of the kinds of things we did. It was very much us driving the goals as we got more experienced and learned more about the problems of ABA, and moved away from "discrete trial training" and more to just modelling things and breaking them down into small steps.

LightTripper · 06/07/2021 23:10

I would definitely stay on the NHS lists and see if there are drop ins for anything you are particularly worried about (you can look up local services by Googling your local authority name and "Local Offer"). But also bear in mind that even in the UK there is a lot of money made off therapies, and a lot of what you read online comes from the US where there is really really really a lot of money made off therapies. They all claim to be super evidence based but when you see it up close you do get more sceptical of how measurable a lot of these things actually are (and whether they are actually measuring the right things: it's easy to "train" a child to do almost anything: but if they aren't motivated to do it, you have to ask how useful that "skill" is actually going to be in life - we always found things went much better if we actually waited until DD showed an interest, and then helped her break things down into baby steps or showed her ways of doing the thing she was interested in).

IsabelAllende · 08/07/2021 17:17

Okay, firstly, you cannot grow out of autism, if your DC has it (if) it's for life.

Secondly, I seriously doubt any pediatrician in the UK would diagnose "mild autism" based on a few minutes assessment done on a 22 months old.

As you are not mentioning speech delays I wouldn't say they need to have any therapies, especially like ABA, but keep an eye on their development, social interactions etc..

Unfortunately I have heard it before that in other countries mild autism can be cured.

IsabelAllende · 08/07/2021 17:20

Also what @LightTripper is saying.

Our pediatrician told us not to read forums from US as their healthcare system is completely different and therapies are not offered the same as in the UK.

Bigcitylights · 11/07/2021 06:39

That’s not quite true that it ‘trains’ the autism out of kids. My son did it for about a year for about 15 hours a week, it massively helped him in the foundational skills he needed to build communication, social skills and pre-academic skills. Now he has those skills we do quite a few Social Thinking type activities with him. I don’t think it harmed him the tiniest bit, it changed his life for the better. He was 3.5 when we started - the Educational Psychologist that we were seeing said that that ABA could help re-wire his brain and I think it did. It didn’t just put a more normal ‘veneer’ on home. He is genuinely now a socially engaged and communicative little boy who is doing well. This might be controversial, but I don’t think his ASD traits were helping him at all. If you are looking for a more modern type of ABA I would really recommend VB-MAPP.

snoobydoo · 16/07/2021 13:29

thank you for everyone for comment and sharing experience. i believe countries follow different routes when they are assets children.

i can say we find aba therapist and after first therapy he said ds doesn't need aba therapy. i am quite pleased he was honest. we will carry on different route.

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