ASD and lies!

[magso]

My son (nearly 8) has started to tell simple lies to avoid doing as asked or to avoid trouble. He is embarrisingly honest in social situations (why is your tummy fat/ teeth brown etc?) I had thought his honesty a sign of asd so is lieing normal (or he not asd?) Ds is just beginning to use pretend play so I suppose I shouldnt be supprised!

I would say that lieing is possible. With myself I will tell small lies ("no, I didn't know how the plate got broken"), but never about big stuff. I wouldn't lie on a CV for example and when filling in Ds1's DLA form I was so nervous about not being completely honest I actually went back and knocked off a few minutes on things I couldn't be exactly sure how long they took. There is one thing that only occurred to me a few years ago and that is why I lied as a child. As a child some of what would appear to be lying was a direct esult of my awful short term memory, ie I genuinely couldn't remember doing something. The other type of lying was done out of fear, I'd actually be so worried that not telling would be worse that I'd admit to things I hadn't done. The intention of lying to deliberately deceive anybody never occurred to me, though obviously to lie it must have been there subconsciously. But I never thought "if I lie I'll get away with it", I just went into panic mode and blurted things out.
I'm a hopeless liar at any rate. DH says he can tell straight away when I'm lying. With the little white lies (eg if someone asks if I like their shoes) I will find something I like about them and compliment that, so I can be honest without hurting their feelings.
Ds1 doesn't have the language ability yet to understand the concept of lying, we're just getting to the stage of him understanding to say what something is, or what he's doing, so lying is a way off.

Thanks bullet. Yes actualy this mornings lie may have been his almost nonexistant short term memory! He can however be (very obviously) deceitful such as hiding food he doesnt want behind his chair or on someone elses plate! Ds did used to own up to everything even if it couldnt possibly be his fault! This was in part his very limited language saying yes when he possibly meant no! His language has lept forward recently and conversation is starting. I do not think DS can plan ahead or premedidate at all. He can certainly panic!

ds( who used be utterly truthful) has learnt to lie quite well as he's got older.He lies to avoid lots of little things he doesn't want to address.I haven't yet caught him out on a biggun though! . Amazingly, he has also learnt to be discreet (lol-ahem at times!) and tells me to 'shush' sometimes if he thinks someone may overhear something we are talking about. The first time he did this i was !