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Haliborange DHA

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blossomhill · 23/09/2004 17:22

Following on from my thread yesterday about dd having ADHD, to be honest I think they are probably right. Dd certainly finds it hard to concentrate and after speaking to a different LSA she said that when they say to dd "you must sit still and concentrate" dd replies "I am trying really hard". Bless her
The worries I have is that dd may come to a stage where she needs medication, although the las said not. This is something I need to address and haven't really after the eyeq incident. I know that children with a combination of language disorders and ADHD are hard work and dd really is hard work. I think sometimes we just carry on as we as parents don't know any different. It's just that when someone else says how much difficulty dd has I know I need to do something.
I have thought about trying Haliborange DHA concentration. Anyone had any experience? Also if anyone is in the same boat, a child with an attention problem and language disorder I would be really pleased to hear from you.
Thanks everyone. I really am finding it all a bit overwhelming at the moment!

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Dingle · 23/09/2004 18:30

BH, just got my 2nd bottle today!!
I have not read all the info on here, but it has been mentioned about the posible effects with fish oils.I haven't got to do much research yet as to which ones are the best. To be honest, I saw this one when doing our online shop at Tescos, so I thought I 'd give it a try.
DD is not quite 3, but both her and ds eagerly await their spoonful in the morning! ( ds didn't like the taste- so I ask if he would have one spoon instead of 2 because it would keep him healthy and make him run faster!!He takes 2 most days now...)
To be honest, it's got to be worth a try hasn't it.
Good luck.

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blossomhill · 23/09/2004 18:41

Thanks Dingle

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Dingle · 23/09/2004 19:00

DD's speech is coming along very nicely ATM but we have been doing an awful lot of work with her, she is also at the age when speech does start to emerge in DS. So whether or not the oils are making any difference, who knows? At the end of the day, the ones we are using contain the other vitamins, so hopefully they are of some benefit.

Saker · 23/09/2004 21:05

From what I understand about the fish oils, it is better to use an oil with a high concentration of EPA rather than DHA. Haliborange has quite low EPA I think and much higher DHA. I don't think the DHA does any harm, just that more EPA might be needed. I think they used Eye-Q in the Durham trials which has a higher EPA:DHA ratio.

See following link for more info:
Durham trial

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blossomhill · 23/09/2004 21:09

Unfortunately Saker EyeQ didn't help dd, sent her completely off the rails! I just really want to avoid medication but also want to help dd as well. I know that she definitely has some kind of adhd/add and just want to help but it's hard with the language disorder as well.

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heartinthecountry · 23/09/2004 22:15

BH - there was a long thread in health a few months ago with lots of discussion about fish oils, which one is best etc. I had literally just bought a bottle of the Haliborange when I saw it and decided not to use it but to get eskimo oil instead (on recommendation from gloworm who I think works in the health food/supplement industry).

My reasons were: Haliborange has lots of sugar in it (main ingredient is sucrose) whereas eskimo has the fish oil as the main ingredient. Halibo has 300mg DHA and 150mg EPA per 10 ml whereas eskimo has 500mg DHA and 750mg EPA per 5ml (though that is the adult one which I use for dd as she can't have the kids one. I just give her a very small amount 1ml per day). Also eskimo is supposed to be the purest oil with no mercury traces.

But, eskimo is more expensive and we had to buy it over the internet. Also, I guess if the nice orangey taste of the haliborange is more appealing than eskimo (although the one dd has is flavoured with lemon oil and not too bad) and if that means your child takes it, then who cares about the sugar?!

I think jimjams uses something different with her ds1, that is specifically recommended for ASD. Know your dd doesn't have autism but I think EyEQ also sends a lot of kids with ASD off the rails and it might be the same thing....

HTH - I'll try and find the other thread and link

heartinthecountry · 23/09/2004 22:23

One of the threads is here

heartinthecountry · 23/09/2004 22:26

another one here
sorry, they weren't in health at all

Saker · 23/09/2004 22:28

I use Eskimo Oil with ds2. One of the things I like about it is that you only need one spoon to get the dose in rather than the 3 you need for EyeQ. It doesn't taste great I have to say and it amazes me every time that ds2 takes it without complaint. We get it from www.nutriworld.co.uk.

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blossomhill · 24/09/2004 12:35

Have you noticed any improvements Saker?
I am desperate at the moment. I don't know why but my little girl is not happy, anxious almost Think the pressure of year 1 is hitting her hard (was 5 at the end of August).

Maybe I should ring Mr Tettenborn, it's just I don't fancy ringing him personally IYSWIM

Thanks HITC I will look at those

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Dingle · 24/09/2004 13:27

What date's her birthday BH? Ds(NT) was 5 at end of Aug too and has recently started in Y1.If this is any consolation: I thought he was very bright, really motivated to learn and have never had any problems with him before. The last few days he has really not been keen on going to school, says he doesn't like it, does too much sitting, he even said the other day that he didn't like books any more, that he was no good at reading because he was only on "yellow"books. He said he was stupid an no good at it!!
I just tried to give him as much encouragement & confidence as I could.
I had the inital interest in the oils because of dd, but ds really seems to be going through it too atm.

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blossomhill · 24/09/2004 14:48

It's horrible isn't it Dingle? Must say ds (NT) went through it when he went into yr1 last year. Funnily enough he has adapted to yr2 and a change around of classes fine. It's dd that's not happy!

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blossomhill · 24/09/2004 14:49

Sorry her DOB is 31.08.99. How about your ds?

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Dingle · 24/09/2004 14:57

Look at the time, got to pick him up from school!!
His is on 30th!!
Oh bless her, hopefully it will all settle down soon!

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blossomhill · 24/09/2004 16:24

I was in labour on the 30th so we could have been in labour at the same time!!!!!
I know it will settle down and maybe my anxiety is rubbing off on her? I think I really need to stop owrrying. The school is great and very understanding so I should hold on to that really.

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Saker · 24/09/2004 20:09

It's difficult to say for certain. He did seem to come on in the months after starting it but then he was 2.5y so it may have been that he was at an age to come on anyway. I don't feel I have seen any detrimental effects. Shortly after starting it his two top side incisors came down which had always been missing before. I don't know if there's a connection but I thought that was interesting - it's unlikely that they would come down by themselves as late as 2.5y and one is still not all the way there so I wonder if there was something going on there.

Saker · 24/09/2004 20:11

Meant to say btw, I think you should ring Dr Tetterborn - I think you said dd was referred to him before so it should be fine. I know how you feel in terms of it being awkward but the worst that can happen is that he will be rude to you and the best is that he might really give you some help.

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