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Phonological disorder or verbal apraxia

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Ggift · 10/09/2019 15:01

My two year old son leaves first consonant in most words. Have any one seen in your kids, did therapy helped them to speak clearly. Please share your experiences.

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artichaut27 · 11/09/2019 10:18

My friend's son had this issue when he was older, I think 4. But he had virtually no language at age 2. He had a language delay.

Your little one being only 2 yo I wouldn't worry too much. His language is still developing.

Here's a timeline of speech sounds: childdevelopment.com.au/resources/child-development-charts/speech-sounds-developmental-chart/

How is his language otherwise, does he have 50 words or more. Does he string 2 words together?

Did he have his 2 yo HV check?

Ggift · 11/09/2019 12:28

Artichaut27, Thanks for your reply. My son has only about twenty words now. No two words. HV did notice, but had no say on this. I checked in internet about leaving first consonant, hence posted it here. How is your friend's sons language now, is he talking clearly now?

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artichaut27 · 12/09/2019 13:36

I see. My DS1 (now 8) barely had 50 words at age 2. He is dyspraxic. He also has a lateral lisp, which we are correcting now.

My friend's DS has a type of language delay/disorder, it's never been diagnosed clearly. His speech issue was corrected at age 6 relatively easily by NHS SALT.

Is there any other aspect of development that caught the HV's attention or just speech and language.

He might be a bit young for therapy but you might go and check with GP. I don't know what the minimum age is for Speech Therapy.

Ggift · 12/09/2019 15:56

Thanks again for coming back. HV and gp suspect ASD. Bcoz, he doesn't respond to names sometimes, points out with open hand, as if like trying to grab the object from distant, sometimes spinning in circle and hand flaps when excited. All these along with language delay I understand from Google that leaving first consonant in words does not come under normal speech disorder. Very worried, still waiting for appointment.

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Kuponut · 12/09/2019 17:24

My daughter has verbal and general dyspraxia. At age 2 she had basically strings of animated babble... at age 3 we had the very odd two word phrase but barely intelligible (like "or oo" for more juice) and at school start she had about 25% intelligible speech to people who were familiar with her.

One of the things I keep coming across with writing on verbal dyspraxia is that the errors can be quite inconsistent - and we very much have very very good days where she has wonderful speech clarity now (her vocabulary is great - always has been) and then days when it's like watching someone who's just been to the dentist and has a gob full of anaesthetic injections trying to say a tongue twister (that's the best way I can describe it). As she gets older you can almost see the wheels turning as her mind is trying to structure and motor plan the response when she's trying to say something.

Because of cuts in our area (and school being brilliant and putting intervention in place) we fell right on the dividing line for NHS treatment and had a really shitty therapist who wasn't going to be bothered to do anything more than the most basic articulation cases - we had two appointments I think and ended up seeing a therapist privately once a fortnight, backed up by us doing the consolidation work at home and school also being on board - now at the start of year 2 she is fully intelligible, good vocabulary and understanding - still sounds slightly immature and almost teletubby-esque at times as her intonation isn't quite there yet, and sometimes needs time to think through and structure what she's trying to tell you - but going from minimal intelligibility to being able to tell on and complain about every single move your sibling makes wrong in great detail is a leap I'll take and she's only slightly behind on the curve now.

artichaut27 · 13/09/2019 10:08

Ggift I'm sure you are worried, but you are observing and acting early on, which is brilliant and will make a difference to whatever the developmental delay could be.

The 'system" (ie school, NHS) has not served us very well, and opted for the classic 'wait and see' strategy, which I find criminal when it comes to development delays and the future of our kids.

Simlar to Kuponut, we're doing private SALT monthly plus daily practice at home. Our NHS SALT was a 'box ticker', I don't think she had any interest in the therapy aspect of her work.

Any chance you can start pushing to get a Paediatrician involved? I think the earlier you get them involved the better.

How are his motor skills? Did he crawl? Did he walk on time? (my DS1 hit all the milestones at the right time, except language, so it was hard to see DCD symptoms before school).

KisstheTeapot14 · 20/09/2019 12:21

Is he at nursery? We had SALT referral from there

drspouse · 20/09/2019 12:24

Is he 24 months or 35 months?

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