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Advice and handhold please....12 year old Asd son became violent and now in foster care ..

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Tara200 · 21/07/2019 16:26

This is long
Sorry

My beautiful 12 and half years Ds became suddenly impossibly challenging around Feb /March this year
He had gone through a lot ........bullied at the end of junior school, lost contact with his half brother a year ago, had to move from his home because his dad my ex husband lost his job .
Initially I thought it was just a transition to his teenage years ... withdrawn , sullen etc

He got in with a gang of older pupils at school, out all the time, stealing money from me . He is vulnerable and easily led . The senco at the school flagged it up to me . He was fighting at school, I am convinced he was smoking drugs as were other family members and Freinds. He gave up his basketball and skateboarding , was nasty to the children of family Freinds he has grown up with.
He began to swear continuously in public
He has always used art to calm himself .. he would draw in the evening if he felt anxious . He is talented but stopped drawing , if I tried to encourage it he would write swear words on the walls and furniture

I tried to encourage him away from these people , to talk and listen to him . Let him have lots of sleepovers at ours so I could monitor . I tried to build his self esteem
I booked to take him to a water park over Easter ..my plan was to try and deprogram him. I am on a low income but had managed to get him a place at a private school known for being pastoral and a bursary in principle

He refused to board the flight and kicked me at the airport . Airport police involved . My parents had him for a week to give me some breathing space.
He was aggressive with them ( he has always been close to them ) smashed up a TV set and pushed my dad over a table . They had to call the police out

His dad came to stay for 2 weeks which helped , he had him out cycling etc which gave me peace of mind as school had partially excluded him ( half days) and I work part time . We said we didn’t want social services involved , researched various programmes ( wilderness camps for troubled kids ) . I found a good male physcologist to help him ( he relates better usually to male teachers and historically babysitters, basketball coach , his old cub leaders ) and booked him in .

However we didn’t get as far as going to the appointments
In the 3 days after his dad left he set light to a carpet, held a knife to me because I wouldn’t give him a lighter and smashed up the flat several times . I had to call the police 2 nights in a row . I videoed him break down crying that he wanted a lighter because fire makes him feel safe and close to his brother again . I videoed it as I thought it would help the therapist to see

The police said “ this child needs help not punishment “ when I showed them the video . They persuaded me to have him put in temporary foster care under section 20 to get him the mental health help he needs

Fast forward 2 months .....

My son is still in foster care . He doesn’t go to school . He plays play station all day. He now has a tutor 3 days a week
He is completely isolated there ... 2 older long term foster children ( 17 and 25 )

I visited him in the placement 6 weeks ago . At the end of the visit he punched me because I wouldn’t let him have his iPhone . Social worker and foster father had requested I not give him it.
So then the next visits had to be “ supervised “ at the social service centre which couldn’t be a less autism friendly place .
At the end of 2 visits of the 3 visits he one time threw a bin at me and another slammed a chair over my head . On the other he was cuddling me and laughing and joking .
I send him clothes, books , vitamins , treats , photos , chatty emails
I FEEL AS IF I AM VISTING HIM IN PRISON
I was until last week video chatting or on the phone daily to him ... Just talking about video games, dogs, past holidays' tv programme should . I followed the advice of Cahms on how to talk to him and to ignore any swearing . We got close again , saying I love you and miss you etc
He told me how sorry he was for hurting me and his Nan . I assured him he was 100% forgiven and we love him . I sent him the child’s book “ no matter what “ which we read a lot when he was small to show him how unconditional my love is

He has had 3 Cahms initial assesments but no diagnosis has been made

He was taken to our dentist by the youth worker , he wrote swear words all over the desk
He punched my mum in the jaw when she wouldn’t give him an iPhone when she visited him

Initially social workers were good I thought. Now I really feel they put words in his mouth . I now have discovered my son is saying he wants to remain in foster care , and that I was aggressive towards him .
I was not .
He also said his dad hit him.

The social workers began, every time I made a nuisance of myself by asking for shorter , more frequent visits in a park or at the foster placement or chasing up his therapy to ask me if I was withdrawing my voluntary consent . Every time I said no .

His anger management doesn’t start until September .. I asked if my family and I could pay to get him private therapy in the interim
I asked if we could pay a child physcologist as he hadn’t seen one up until that point
I did make the mistake of once saying “ I don’t think this is helping my child , what would happen if I just go and get him ..?. “ .. he had run away from the foster home and rang me terrified. I asked the question , I didn’t do it or say I would .

Last week I was served papers by the local authority to attend court in 2 days time to have my parental rights removed . I thought I was turning up for family therapy .
Twice they had already cancelled the family therapy
They succeeded in court , we are back in 2 weeks , they want to extend this for 36 weeks
They say my emotional difficulties are making me obstructive . They want my medical records , hair strand testing , physcologist,ogical assesments on his dad and myself

I have legal aid , a solicitor and the barrister was lovely
Cahms apparently can’t give me feedback now I have had my rights taken . Nor can our Gp discuss him with me
Social workers won’t talk to me except by email . When they do they talk down to me
The foster father is a good guy and does talk to me . He says Ds feels shame and guilt

Ds hasn’t spoken to me since they told him they were taking me to court , except to answer the foster fathers phone and tell me to kill myself

I am heartbroken

Thankyou for reading this long post
Any advice or experience so appreciated

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EstherMumsnet · 21/07/2019 22:16

This sounds impossibly hard OP. We are moving your thread to the SN Children area of the talkboards and hopefully you will get some good advice.

Tara200 · 22/07/2019 00:13

Bless you mumsnet
I posted on sen and teen mental health also
So 3 threads at once
Please do feel free to remove as appropriate
Sorry

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Pantolilies · 22/07/2019 08:10

Bump for you.

Tara200 · 22/07/2019 18:16

Bumping my thread

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Grasspigeons · 22/07/2019 18:20

Flowers hi Tara200
I am sorry you are having such a hard time. I cant offer any advice and hope your lawyers support you. I dont know if you have come across Yvonne Newbold. She is very active in supporting and raising awareness of violence and challenging behaviour in chikdren with SEND. Perhaps have a google. I will PM you too so look in your inbox

Aridane · 22/07/2019 18:24

This is heartbreaking- I hope your lawyer can help and support

NeatFreakMama · 22/07/2019 18:27

I don't have any advise I'm afraid but I read your thread and you are having such a hard time and I'm so sorry Flowers hopefully someone will some experience will come soon to help.

Tara200 · 22/07/2019 19:17

Thankyou so much

Today I was instructed by social workers to have his gaming pc and clothes sent to him
Told contact could only be by phone twice a week . If he declines the call I have to wait until my next slot .

I met with the lawyer today
She was great
It bought something to light though
2 years ago my world fell apart , my ex partner ( not Ds father ) left me for another woman then tried to put a claim against my property . I drank too much over a 2 month period
I was arrested for drink driving
The case was dismissed at court , medical records as I was on tramadol following a car accident 6 months prior when I broke my neck and the arresting officers didn’t show up to court .
It gave me the fright of my life and I felt deeply ashamed .
When my son first starting getting into trouble with the police I shared this experience with him , as in how awful being locked in a cell was and I never want that for him .

I abstained from wine for months and then again only socially ( none in the house rule )
However since this all happened with my son and I placed him in care I have drunk wine most evenings to cope
So the hair strand tests they want are going to fail me
She said to come clean to the judge , volunteer for testing in 3 months and to go to aa
The reports say my son was questioned about my drinking

His school have written a report praising me as a mother , as have Freinds and family . They have highlighted the change they saw in Ds
There is a video of him the night he broke down and endless photos of happy outings and trips to the beach .

She has told me to expect the judge to rule next week social services maintain parental rights over me for up to 6 months but he would be likely to insist they do more to reinstate contact
She said Ds will finally get a full mental health assessment
An independent guardian will speak to him

When I read the reports today I couldn’t believe how out of context much of what the social worker said was . My mum and his godmother read it and my mum said “ this isn’t you “.
And they definitely had coached my child . If it wasn’t so sad and hard some of what Ds said would be comical.
However it’s frightening

As his uncle and Dad have both said .. Ds wants to stay in the foster placement . He feels awful about some of the things he did and it’s utopia for an Asd child .. no school , no peer pressure , unlimited play station to “keep him calm “ I asked the foster father “ do you hug him “ .. he said no he won’t let me
The last hug my darling boy got was from me 3 weeks ago . He has always been hugged and told I love you every day and did the same to me

I am going to keep sending him chatty emails unless they stop me
Telling him how much I love him
He actually got a good school report ( they based it on 2 terms not 3 ) and I sent him a copy full of my praise .

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Tara200 · 22/07/2019 19:31

Sorry , posted too soon

Tomorrow I have to sign myself off of carers allowance , child benefit etc so I won’t get help with the rent . I am no longer a part time teacher and part time carer for a special magical person
I could get a flat mate but it just is so painful being here without him I want to move but where ? Nearer his placement

I will need to work full time to support myself
I need some therapy and professional help , I am so anxious I can’t eat
I ended a very new budding relationship when this all started so feel lonely
My Freinds invite me over and out but it’s hard as they have their kids and I feel so sad I don’t

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Grasspigeons · 22/07/2019 20:09

Heartbreaking.

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/07/2019 13:04

So sorry lovely. It is so hard.

Tara200 · 23/07/2019 23:29

I went to the Gp today
She prescribed something for the anxiety and referred me for counselling . She has known Ds and I since he was tiny . She gave me some words of reassurance , I had attended all medicals for him. No concerns were ever raised by doctors or school as to his welfare at home . She said any medical records showed an involved mother.

Today I also went along as the parent for the first of his anger management sessions referrred through Cahms ( he was absent , apparently the parent goes first )

Social worker emailed this morning to to say Ds has requested Tuesdays and Saturdays were telephone contact days and If Ds declined the contact I had to wait til the next slot . I tried to get through 3 times this afternoon at the allotted time , eventually foster father answered , talked about his car gear box troubles then says Ds says he doesn’t want to talk to me today . He was “ out with the dogs “
They also said he gets my emails but doesn’t like I talk to him “ like a spastic “ ... is nobody going to mention to him how offensive that word is and why .?? i followed Cahms advice on communicating with him .

Social worker also requested I copy them in on any emails .

Fortunately I worked this morning and this evening and do enjoy my part time job .. it’s absorbing/ distracting whilst I do it

I get social workers have to be incredibly careful . Terrible things happen and have happened to children , social workers had the finger pointed at them over baby p. But we went to them .

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BlackeyedGruesome · 25/07/2019 13:37

Hang on in there. Puberty and autism are not a good mix. Things may even out later.

Also have an autistic child who will say things like I kicked him...then admit that I looked like I wanted to kick him, thankfully, he has not said that to anyone in authority. I looked terrified most likely as he was swinging for me, throwing stuff..

Years ago now.

Good luck to you.

BlackeyedGruesome · 25/07/2019 13:39

Just to clarify not touched him unless to stop him self harming, then cradling his head to stop him hurting himself.

vasillisa · 25/07/2019 17:32

Hand ready to hold here. So very sorry OP. This is one of the most heartwrenching things I have read here recently. Stay strong, there is a lot on your side, and good people like your GP. As previous poster said puberty and ASD are a real weird mix, I have a friend with similar issues. I hope this resolves with time.

danni0509 · 27/07/2019 14:05

Bless you @Tara200 Thanks you sound like such a caring parent.

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