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difference between understanding what is being said and knowing the routine?

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eeniemeenieminiemoe2014 · 04/06/2017 18:06

my daughter is undergoing assessment fir ASD and has her SALT assessment tomorrow. we go to groups regularly at a sure start centre so they did her tracking sheet which is the same as the childminders and the childminders have just sent me theirs and there is a massive discrepancy.

One of the things rhat has thrown me is the understanding and I am not sure I agree with the childminder's assessment that she understands two part instructions. they have said she understands

'go inside and take your coat off'
'take yoir shoes off and put them away'
'dry your hands and put the paper in the bin'

whereas I feel like she does those thinfs oit of routine and would do both parts even if just being told 'take yoir shoes off' or 'take your coat off'

whereas if I ask her to take her shoes off and put them on the table she wouldnt be able to. Is there a way to tell or is there even a difference?

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Checklist · 04/06/2017 21:52

I would agree with you, that a child can want to appear normal and use their intelligence to watch what other people are doing, so they can copy them, or follow routine to fit in! The only way, IME to see how much a child really understands is to watch a full SALT assessment. I have watched DD have numerous independent assessments, and every time, I was taken aback by how little she understood without visual or contextual clues!

eeniemeenieminiemoe2014 · 04/06/2017 22:45

we have one tomorrow. Im really hoping Im going to be pleasantly surprised as I feel sick at where I and the sure start key worker thinks she actually is.

she can understand masses when you show her first but asking verbally I feel like my 8 month old understands just as much :(

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zzzzz · 05/06/2017 09:20

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eeniemeenieminiemoe2014 · 05/06/2017 19:43

Salt have agreed her understandimg is pretty behind and she is doing a mixture of guessing when answering questions and knowing the routines with others.

she said delays accross all areas :(

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zzzzz · 05/06/2017 19:59

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eeniemeenieminiemoe2014 · 05/06/2017 20:04

I actually think she sounds very similar to your DS. she is scarily intelligent, and if you show her something once she doesnt need showing twice when it comes to practical things. I fully agree that the language skills aren't there and I can tell instantly when she is guessing or genuine. I also agree with the assessment that her eye contact was poor.

I definitely think she has ASD, to me its obvious but her childminders say she is presenting like this because she witnessed significant domestic violence and they have rubbished ASD themselves.

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zzzzz · 05/06/2017 20:13

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Polter · 05/06/2017 21:41

Agree with zzzzz

The childminder is not qualified to make such judgements and I'd be a bit pissed off tbh. The CM should restrict her observations to what she actually observes! Not make speculative guesses. Grr.

eeniemeenieminiemoe2014 · 06/06/2017 15:49

thank you. I darent give her a tablet, when she gets frustrated she launches things and she has broken my phone several times..shes only 2.5

i am very pissed off withchildminder, feel like he is blaming me entirely.

She had her hearing test today and it all came back clear.

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Polter · 06/06/2017 16:37

Otterbox and Griffin do fantastic tough cases and screen protectors. Technology really is an immensely useful tool.

eeniemeenieminiemoe2014 · 08/06/2017 12:28

full SALT report came through,

poor pretend play, poor eye contact, poor attention, poor shared attention.

seeing it written down is tough!

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