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Dingle · 09/03/2007 12:01

Need to get back to the LEA re; Amelia's proposed statement and I really need some advice on it's content. I have piles of paper spread all over the floor and I just don't know where to start.

Our PP rep is away and our Ipsea rep hasn't returned my email!!! I have started a thread over on Special Education but not had much response!!!

Please- any pointers would be much appreciated- it just seems so vague.

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amynnixmum · 09/03/2007 12:13

Sorry dingle I'm really not sure. Perhaps err on the side of being overly detailed - at least then you know they have all the information they need.

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Dingle · 09/03/2007 12:38

Thank you!!!!{{{{big hug}}}}}

I feel I have a big task ahead then.

Take part 3 for Communication.

Objectives.
To enable Amelia to develop her speech & language skills to her full potential/.

Education Provision to meet needs & objectives.
Firstly I didn't realise this was a seperate section, it is all sort of clumped inbetween Objectives and strategies. It reads:
A reqs a supportive ed. environment, which provides for her individual needs by differentiating the curriculum as approprite.

All those working with A must be fuly aware of the difficulties that she encounters and of the appropriate strategies that can meet her needs.

All staff working with A should have experience & expertise in supporting children with her difficulties.

A must have access to the full range of the Nat Curriculum suitable differentiated to take into account her identified needs.

A urrently attends a MS infant school, which caters for children between 4-7 years. A is in a mixed ability class where she benefits from pastoral support provided through the class teacher should she need to access this.

Whilst in a MS school in addition to the support the school will provide through SA+, she should access 15 hours TA support per week, either on a 1-1 or small group basis. The person appointed would work under the direction of the SENCO, who will be responsible for ensuring that the appropriate programmes of intervention are implented and monitored.

A has a broad & differentiated ed. and she wil follow a challenging Curriculum that develops her potential. Parents are involved & supported in A's learning process by the school.

Strategies.

  1. Communication
school seek advice from SALT re; progs to develop A's expressive lang skills.

A to have daily use of signs/gestures. Staff should use Signalong to support her experessive lang.

Must have acess to visual symbols/pictures to aid her. A must have positive visual feedback for her attemps at communication.

A must have opportunities to engage in a variety of play activites that encourage comm. and develop more word knowledge by playing games such as "I Spy."

(!!!!!!!!!!!!!) So how often does she get to see a proffessional SALT, and who provides this "specialist" input that we are currently paying £40 per hour for. Who is going to carry it out withing the school and how often?

Every aspect of her needs seems rather vague and not worth the paper it typed on. It just seems they have copied out chunks of the EPs report.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/03/2007 13:51

Dingle

You're going to have to tackle this useless LEA as none of this provision is quantified!. It's also more woolly that a flock of sheep!.

IMO the whole of parts 2 and 3 need to be rewritten.

Think IPSEA are back at 2pm.

Dingle · 09/03/2007 14:01

WEll I though as much!!!

OT is hardly even addressed, neither are her sensory issues. What has been addressed hasn't been quantified at all. But they feel the burning desire to mention that she no longer wears AFOs.....er.well...she hasn't done so for about 2 years now.

LOL about the flock of sheep- I need something to put a smile back on this frowning face!!

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Dingle · 11/04/2007 19:06

Sorry ladies.....this rears it's ugly head again. Got Amelia's amended proposed statement and hardly any changes have been made. I have spoken to our IPSEA rep again and we are both going to work on the changes we feel are needed and hopefully exchange ideas tomorrow.

Can anyone tell me where exactly does it say a statement need to quantify etc. is this in the Code of pRACTICE? ( OH ) SORRY ABOUT CAPS.) And there was me expecting a few days actually playing and having fun with the children!!

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PeachyChocolateEClair · 12/04/2007 20:03

Sorry haven't got Sam's handy- but will bump for you

jenk1 · 12/04/2007 20:06

Dingle im sure there,s something on the IPSEA website about specifying and quantifying provision.

Off to have a look, back in a mo.

jenk1 · 12/04/2007 20:09

found it specifying

Dingle · 12/04/2007 20:51

Thank you for replying, I have spent the last day or so just buried in paperwork again. Hardly any changes were made to the Amended proposed statement and we are running out of time yet again. It alway seems to happen while the children are on school holidays and I don't get 5 minutes to myself to work on it.

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cat64 · 12/04/2007 21:06

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Dingle · 13/04/2007 12:18

Thanks again- I am ploughing through all this...STILL. Our IPSEA rep has emailed the LEA to advise them there are still changes we want made....not sure whether we need another meeting though. LOADS of changes we still want made.
I have found a 23 page document on the DSA website, produced by Symbol UK ( who we pay for Amelia's provate, specialist SALT) The doc is called:

" How Much is enough? Speecha & Language Therapy Provison for school aged Children who have Downs Syndrome"

Guess what I'll be doing this afternoon!!

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PeachyChocolateEClair · 13/04/2007 12:27

Don't envy you Dingle

Want a (rather ironic) laugh? Our LEa has said that we don't need a statement for ds3 as the LEa will provide 1 - 1 anyway.

Peeing my pants on that one.....

what a shame we applied weeks ago!

Dingle · 13/04/2007 12:49

That is our LEA's policy. They say that children don't need statements any more as the funding is already in place in the schools and it's down to the individual schools to budget.

Last July the LEA refused to assess,we pushed forward and submitted everything to the tribunal service, then the LEA backed down and agreed to assess. Now they feel her needs would be best met at the MLD school. How can her needs change so much in such a short space of time.

I am really mixed up, she has been there for 2.5 years now, she started in the nursery at 3. You just cannot compare the support she will get in MS to what is on offer in the MLD school, but considering the minimal "relevant" support she has been given, I feel she has done wonders. I always said I wanted to give her a fair chance at MS, and the system just hasn't allowed that to happen so far....But I am commited now, too far down the road of fighting- I cannot and will not give up until she has had a proper chance.

What are you going to do Peachy?

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/04/2007 13:32

"They say that children don't need statements any more as the funding is already in place in the schools and it's down to the individual schools to budget".

Dingle,

What part of the country are you in?. I hope that IPSEA are aware of what this LEA are doing with regards to the above. This LEA needs to be brought back in to line by the Secretary of State.

The above is yet another tactic employed by LEA's to dodge their statutory responsibilities. Do not stand for it.

PeachyChocolateEClair · 13/04/2007 14:17

DS1 gotr a statement last month (10 hours but his needs are less), if they don't give DS3 one then he doesn't start school until he does get the help he needs/ Simple. We already have childcare in place in case (his existing CM who backs us up completely on this). We have asked for a catch up year at Nursery (as he is a late Juky baby) but got a flat No!. But also as he is a late July baby, he doesn't have to start legally school until a 2008. And he won't, unless he geyts what he needs.

We've noticed a lot of improvement over the holds since he hasn't been at ursery anyway, I'd quite like it to come to that, but we feel that we should give them the chance, plus he'll have to enter Year1 instead of reception,a nd we want to be able to show we were pushed into it.

Oh yeah- and the assembly member is on their abck and supporting our case LOL! That seems to help.

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Dingle · 13/04/2007 14:57

We are in Medway, Kent.....like a little desert island stuck on the edge of a county, working completely different to the rest of Kent which comes under Kent County Council!

IPSEA are representing us.Rather than close the "case" when the LEA backed down & agreed to assess, our Rep said she would see it through to the end and is helping me on the proposed statement and meetings etc.

It makes me so furious that the whole system is letting our children down. There is always going to be a gap between Amelia and her peers, and I know it will only get larger and she progresses through school, but the riddiculous theory that she didn't need support, even when she started Reception, has just jeopodised her MS education even further.

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PeachyChocolateEClair · 13/04/2007 15:25

We're in an area of Wales noted for problems with assessment procedure (apparently the Assembly were investigating?). I don;t think they're supposed to do parental requests either, but I gave up waiting and just went ahead both times, and the SENCO seemed pleased. I also found bullying (not nice but there you go) helpful- eg, should ds1 attack someone in the playground and be excluded and / or hgahrm them, I will be holding you individuall and financially repsonsible (he has since bitten a dinner lady, fortunately I was there to intervene as dropping ds3 at nursery).

The BAT (or behavioural advisory teacher but I prefer the initials by a long way LOL!) said we shouldnt apply until may, which would have meant no statenent for school in septemberas they drag it every second to the limits.

Is there some decree within LEA's that we as parents are to be viewed as thick?

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PeachyChocolateEClair · 13/04/2007 18:34

Yep, Dh said that to the BAT- you've never seen someone look so shocked that it was actually said to her LOL!

I treat them all as if they owe DS something. because they do, its their jobs. If I saw them down pub I'd buy them a drink and say hi, but on LEA / my time they're there to help US.

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