is this just a normal phase or another symptom of the ASD??

[Fattymumma]

recently Ds has been really sensetive emotionally.

If i tell him off for something (hitting his sister, throwing ect) he runs upstairs crying and shouting that i don't love him and he wants to kill himself.

if he plays his gameboy (something that he usualy really enjoys as is getting so much better at corodination from) and he loses or dies (if its a space type game) then he gets hysterical shouting about how he can't do it because he is so stupid.

its heartbreaking. i had thought that maybe this is something he has picked up from other kids at school but this has been going on for a few weeks now.

Is this a phase all kids go through (he is 6) he is always very concerned with failure and so will not attempt anything he doesn't think he can do, but this is more than it used to be.

the stuff about wanting to kill himself is really worrying. i know that depression is common in some HFA kids but he will actually try and hold his own kneck, as if to choke himself.

its all really odd as he seems to be doing so well at school now.

I can't tell you whether it's a symptom of ASD but I can tell you that I can see many similarities with my ds who has ASD, although he's not shouting out that he wants to kill himself which must be heartbreaking to hearBut he has lately mentioned that he's stupid on several occasions, I'm not sure if this is actually due to him being aware of his difficulties or whether other children have said this to him, god I hope not. He has such low self esteem and also won't attempt to do many things for fear of failure. He reacts just like your ds with his gameboy, in fact whenever I watch him play I find it almost unbearable to watch him getting killed for the umpteenth time knowing I'm going to have a very very angry reaction on my hands, easy solution is to take the game away from him but not so easy with such an obsessive child. Your ds sounds so sad, I hope someone will come along to give you some advice Fattymumma

I have an asd dd1 who has a low self esteem and confidence - it seems to be a trait of the disorder in some children.. However the dominant traits differ between boys and girls. Girls tend to cover feelings of inadequacy by good social skills whereas boys let their feelings show. My dd1 will often burst into tears at the slightest opportunity, sometimes for no reason. She also thinks of herself as "stupid" when clearly she is not. I think and hope this will pass for you - but if you are concerned see if you have a local psychology service who can give you more advice on how to help him when he is feeling low. hth

I have heard this many times with HFA/AS. There is a very good book you can get from the NAS called When My Autism Gets Too Much For Me. A good friend of mine has a DS who is dx ASD although very HF and they have both found this book invaluable. He has said and threatened some awful things in the past, now he tells her to think about the strategies in the book!

spookymadmummy ~ how old is your dd with asd?

I have a dd aged 7 with AS and finding it hard to find other peopel who have dd's with hf asd!

My dd1 is coming up to 5, blossomhill. Just really starting out! had her dx in May after 2 years of thinking something was wrong but not quite knowing what... first child, no others close in family for developmental comparison

i have the same fear that maybe he ois picking it up from what he has heard others say.
he has had a firm Dx of SPD which means he pretty much copies what he hears others say as he feels this is "normal" so it could be that he has picked up these comments from others....as much as it would be a relief that it wasn't how he is actually feeling just him mimicing, i owuld be so angry and upset that he has obviously heard someone speak about him like that.

we are due another visit to the CDC anytime soon so will bring it up then, plus we have the Behavioural specialist coming to observe him at school so i will mention it to them as well.

fattymumma if you want to add me to your msn I wil happily chat off board and I have a sister with a ds who has gone through similar things - she will also be happy to talk to you -
My msn is - sewing mad mum @hotmail.com - just remove the spaces!

Can I add you too please spooky mad mummy?

Will anyone but you can always delete me if you don't want to chat lol

anyone can add me!! no worries