Could EyeQ be affecting dd's behaviour (for the worse!!!)??/

[KPB]

I posted recently about giving my dd aged 4.8 months, who is hyperactive and has language difficulties, EyeQ. Have noticed that her behaviour has got quite bad recently. Very hyper and hard to talk too, just won't listen. Had a really bad experience in a shoe shop today (my idea of a nightmare) running around and not letting the lady check the shoes, it really wasn't a pleasant experience. Anyway I have tried EyeQ before and found that it affected her behaviour negatively and stopped. Out of desperation wanted to try it again and again at about the 3-4 week mark her hyperactivity is really bad. Is this the storm before the calm and can this be linked to the EyeQ? I def. think it is. Any advice gratefully received. Shall I stop giving it, can some children react - I am desperate!

Gloworm that would be really helpful. If you don't mind and have the time? Thanks again

Spoke to this nutritionalist guy I see now and again. i have an appointment to see him in 2 weeks. He said that sometimes children go hyper then calm right down on EyeQ. Rather like when you detox, so I'll see what he has to say when I have my appt. Apparently it can be a good sign as it is obviously getting to the right place or something!!!

Never use more than the recommended dose.

Eskimo Liquid:
AGE 0-2, 1ml
AGE 2-4, 2ml
AGE 4-8, 3ml
AGE 8-12, 4ml
AGE 12-ADULT, 5ml teaspoon.

Eskimo Capsules:
for children burst capsule and add to yoghurt.
AGE 0-2, 1 capsule
AGE 2-4, 2 capsules
AGE 4-8, 3 capsule
AGE 8-12, 4 capsules
AGE 12+ 5 capsules
Adults:anywhere between 3-9 capsules depending on severity of condition and reason for taking.

Eskimo Kids Liquid:
AGE 1-12, one 5ml teaspoon per day.
Contains: omega 3, omega 6, omega 9 (the ratio of these is adjusted for the needs of children), vitamin D, vitamin E and antioxidants and natural flavouring.
It is also purified to reduce the levels of any environmental toxins (such as mercury/pesticides/PCBs/DDT) to well below current accepted levels.

The fish oil in all eskimo products is from FRESH,deep sea fish, NOT cultivated farmed fish.
No fishy aftertaste and doesn't repeat.
Food Safety Authority has voted it best Fish oil for quality and safety.

As far as I know, no other fish oil on the market is this pure.

Thank you for that information Gloworm it sounds maybe this could be the one. I also like the fact that it's only 1x5ml a day.
Poor dd would gag on EyeQ saying "Yuk, that tastes terrible!!!".
I hope you don't mind me asking but how much does it cost??? Thanks again

sorry but I'm in Ireland so price is different

its 19euro for 105ml, so 25 doses. will be a lot cheaper in sterling (also prices seem to be cheaper in UK, regardless of exchange rate.)

forgot to say- even if eyeQ was cheaper, remember you had to use a lot more of it so it probably worked out dearer in the long run.

i bought some the other day on impulse (but havent used) was £9.95 for 105mls ie 25 doses. will be interested to see how you get on with it-am not sure whether to give to ds or not.

maisy just curious as to why you unsure about reason, or have i missed something further down thread?

ds has been referred to STEPS by pre school, something to do with gross motor skills/spatial awareness/dividing attention. accoding to pre school linked to poor potty training and randomly walking into things. i dont think theres anything wrong with him (but what do i know!!) but he is quite clumsy and potty training has gone on for 18 mnths(so far!). just thought eskimo might help maybe with concentration etc but am unsure???? any advice?

its certainly worth a try, can do no harm. is safe enough that were are going to give it to dd 6mths soon.
taking ds to bed now so will post more tomorrow.

Maisystar - Hope you don't mind me asking but what is STEPS?
Gloworm - Great, thanks again. I am prepared to pay whatever and it is also reassuring to know that the quality is good. I do worry sometimes as when my dd was offered Ritalin at 4, we turned it down. The paed. asked what was I going to do and when I explained that I was going to try the natural route he was so funny. He said something like "How do you know the fish oils are safe? How many papers are written on fish oils, compared to the ones on Ritalin?" He really wanted dd to have Ritalin even though her school were like okay she does have a concentration problem, due to language problems but not ADHD. They were dead against her having the Ritalin. I understand for some children it really is essential but isn't it up to the parents. Actually since being at the special language unit dd has improved 80% and is no where near as manic as when dx with ADHD last October.

support, teaching and education psychology sevice. dont really know what they do tbh, am supposed to be meeting them soon. have you heard of them?- think it may just be a sheffield organization (has links with council) but am not sure.

KPB - similar here too. Ds offered Ritalin when he was 5 for a trial and I said that I wanted to try the natural route first. One consultant laughed at me and another shouted that if I wouldn't give Ritalin, then she would not say it was ADHD!!! I changed consultants - pronto!

The EyeQ seems to work for my ds, but it is expensive and I am going to try and get hold of the Eskimo kids stuff which Gloworm suggested.

When I asked my doctor if he could prescribe EyeQ, he said something like "it's not in my book, I've never heard of it, it probably isn't registered - and Thalidomide seemed like a good thing to take at the time, but look at the damage it has done". I wrote and asked my consultant if he can prescribe it as it is costing me £16 a month.

not sure if this is in any way relevant to STEPS but sounds similar. this is just bits and pieces I picked up from customers so may not be 100% accurate.
Primal Movement Therapy is used to help children with dyslexia/add/adhd and others. they do things like get down on all fours and teach child how to crawl properly, if baby never crawled or only crawled for a short time before walking or didnt crawl properly.
i think its something to do with certain links in the brain not being formed if the baby doesn't learn basic/primal instincts like crawling. (but don't quote me on this!!)
these children can be clumsy, have short attention spans and other behavour and development problems.
Eskimo is being used by a few of the people involved in this therapy.

this probably is not of much use, its not an area I know a whole lot about. if it seems relevant perhaps you could look up "primal movement Therapy" on the web?

Hmmm. Eskimo oil may be wonderful for all I know but found the claim 'Food Safety Authority has voted it best Fish oil for quality and safety' suspicious. There is no such thing as the Food Safety Authority. There is a Food Standards Agency in the UK but they certainly don't 'vote' for best product. So I checked on their website (www.foodstandards.gov.uk) and guess what? A search for Eskimo Oil doesn't produce any results. They have never said anything about it.
I work in consumer protection so I'm alert to claims like this. It may be a good product, it may not, but there is currently no way of knowing whether the supplements sold in health food shops contain what they say they do. Even if they do, there's no guarantee it is in a form that can be absorbed by the body, as opposed to merely excreted. This isn't to attack anyone who works in a health food shop, merely the manufacturers of some supplements who make a lot of money selling useless and expensive products. Currently no way of knowing which ones are reliable and which ones are rubbish. Someone said Americans have the most expensive urine in the world because they take so many multi-vits.
There are useful supplements out there but I'd beware anything that makes overblown claims, particularly if it claims to have been approved by some official-sounding body.

sorry eddm keep forgetting this us mostly uk mumsnetters. It is food safety authority in Ireland. not sure if this corresponds to the food standards agency in UK, but it is genuine government agency.
I am also wary of companies producing over hyped and over priced products, jumping on the health food bandwagon and hoping to make huge profits.
I am pretty convinced Eskimo is not one of these products (and remain unconvinced about eyeQ)

Oops sorry about that, consumer protection hat on! Glad to know it is genuine and hope it helps... I only posted because this was on active conversations, I'm not lurking on SN, honest

Just a quick update. Well it has been over 3 weeks since dd stopped EyeQ and I can honestly say she is finally coming back down to "planet earth". The first week after we stopped things seemed to get worse and the eventually dd became calmer and calmer. TBH I have decided to give the oils a wide berth (sp?) at the moment as I can't possibly risk having dd's behaviour deteriate like that again, it defeats the object! Thanks again everyone for all of your help and advice!!! BlossomHill (formerly KPB - fancied a name change bored with the old one)

Just for info; my ds2 has been on Eskimo oil for a bit. We get it from Nutriworld - it is £9.99 a bottle and they don't charge any postage. Both times I have ordered it, it has come in the post within 3 days.

I have to say I don't think it tastes very nice and it always makes my ds2 cough but amazingly he never refuses it even though he can be really stubborn about some things so I suppose he likes it. Mind I have to make animal noises when I pour it out of the bottle and pretend he is eating a dog.....

It is good though because you get a good dose in one teaspoon so if they remember they don't like it after the first spoon you don't have to force anymore down that day.