Robin Pauc - Is that my child

[Lottie99]

Has anyone been to the clinic and was it worth it. Did you see a big improvement in your child's concentration, etc.

I am thinking about doing this. My son has ADHD with 'strong autistic features' and the book seems to reflect a lot of our experiences.

However, the clinic is a long way from where we live and would entail overnight stays for the assessment and subsequent visits. It is quite expensive as it is without all the extra hassle involved!

Any experiences greatly valued.

hi Lottie
Have you read this book? You can do loads with the diet before you travel, I don't think exercise alone would be sufficient. For my son I got diet in place and I am working through it slowly (probiotics etc), it all takes time, although response on diet was quite instant in our case. Both approaches can be used in conjunction.

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I have read this book several times and I must admit I find the diet quite confusing. I have a number of questions:

1. Did you do his 2 week diet first? I ask because mine will not eat things like houmous and rice crackers. Also, the rice crackers contain some of the things he mentions are bad.

We can't get an app before Dec but for Nov-late Feb we are away in Ireland for hubby job. I would like to start diet and get it working before we go so not lots of upheaval at one time.

Can I ask you some other questions?

1. Do you buy Vogels bread? Now we use multi-grain but it does contain some of the things he mentions in his book. What I'm not sure is can you eat some of them or must you avoid all of them?

1. Are there any supermarket cakes, biscuits, sweets you can eat.

1. I have no probs with tea time and in theory not with breakfast but on days I work it is really tricky plus some problems with types of food. What do you do?

5 What sausages do you buy? Cos, all that I seen have different things in. Have even asked at butchers. Have you managed to find organic bacon?

What do you give for school lunch?

I'm sorry that lots of questions. Book says you should be able to start diet but leaves lots of questions.

How long have you been doing it and how many visits to the clinic are you making? His e-mails to me say should see improvement within 2 weeks and that success rate is high. What do you think? Is this true. Is your child 'cured'?

PS do you use boots own Zinc Sulphate which he mentions in the book?

Sorry, to ask so many questions but very little on the web and most 'discussion' seems to centre on his qualifications!

hi Annie
I had put my son on cook-from-scratch and gluten-free diet (gf on neurologist's suggestion) before I got the book, so didn't really follow the diet from R Pauc's book to the letter (I actually find Natasha Campbell-McBride book better for overall nutritional approach, although her diet is very strict).

I also noticed that there are some inconsistencies in R Pauc's book re diet - I mean sliced ham form deli is not exactly free of preservatives. For me it was important to remove gluten and monosodium glutamate plus as many E numbers as poss.
Once my son realised how his balance has improved, he started pushing himself to do things he was struggling with before, any exercise you can think on the left side can be useful (yes, I also had noticed that he was struggling left-wise).
I hate rice crackers (some have monosodium glutamate), we have ener-G rice bread, although only if completely stuck, normally try to do without (see special diets section in supermarkets). They also have a kind-of fruit cake which is fairly safe (and no soya -personal choice) and some cookies. Thankfully we are not much into sweets or biscuits.
Sainsbury's used to do decent gf saussages, but I can't find them any more, so I tend to make own nuggets or meatballs with mince + onions + herbs etc. Tescos do organic bacon, probably Sainsbury's too.
Twice a week I make a salad either coleslaw or veg (cooked carrot, egg, apple, onion, capers, gherkins, peas etc + some olive oil + small dollop of mayo) and that is for lunch, sometimes with a slice of good cooked (boiled) ham (hoping that the preservatives got flushed down the drain.
I make soups and liquidise nice cuts of meat into them (same with caseroles).
Although ideally I would like to ditch dairy too, so far we have only reduced it and I still occasionally buy a yoghourt or another g/f desert.
I get zinc ACE (glutamate) by Wassen (also from Boots), because Boots own zinc (sulfate) contains soya and I am not too keen on that. I have seen a research which stated that sulfate is not as good as glutamate, with picolinate best of all(not seen that one in shops tho, only online).
The assessment was quite comprehensive and I found out a thing or two, but I was slightly disappointed that there was nothing in writing afterwards. I personally think good diet is absolutely essential for any chance of progress.

I read a number of gluten-free diet books (and forums) so I wasn't relying on a single source, maybe this helps you a bit. Do look up that other book if you can.
best wishes

ooops, I should have said zinc GLUCONATE, not glutamate (now that I am wide awake!)

Hi Lottie,

My 11 year old son is currently attending Dr Pauc's clinic. We have found it helpful so far. I felt that he was my last chance in a long line of reports and OT therapy none of which were of much help. The diet he instructed us to follow was quite simple no cakes, biscuits,chocolate,fizzy drinks,pasta,rice or crisps. Cooked breakfast every morning eg. egg and bacon or scrambled eggs and so on. To date I feel my son has improved in may areas. Dr Pauc is not a Dr of medicine but I don't feel that it really matters. Dr Pauc seems to have critics that feel he is a quack, I do not think that as he is not alone in his views on the neurological system playing a huge part in our childrens develpoment. If you have any questions I would be happy to answer them.

Roxy 99

@ROXY99 Hi, coming back to you after your post about Robin Pauc some years later, but could you tell me what your thoughts and conclusions are about his treatments. I can see only negative messages on the net, yet I am intrigued and think his approach could be interesting.
Thanks!

Hi,
Yes it has been sometime since I posted the comment re Robin Pauc my son is now 26! I appreciate it is a distance and we used to do it in a day which was exhausting.

I think some of the exercises were helpful however my son found the exercises repetitive and I think it affected his self esteem adversely.
I have gone on to be a psychotherapist and specialized in attachment and I feel there were indicators when he was a baby but I didn't realise.

Parenting is difficult at the best of times and each child is individual I wonder if there might be other areas to investigate however many of these treatments are not well researched and desperate parents will pay for unconventional methods as I did but not convinced it helped that much! I hope this makes sense :) all the best for the future.