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what functional reading age does a child need to access a full secondary curriculum

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bjkmummy · 27/10/2014 14:32

I have a feeling it is age 9 for some reason - does anyone know? also what would happen to a child who has a reading age below age 9? how much support would be put in place for them?

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Ineedmorepumpkins · 27/10/2014 15:44

I think that is a bit of a "how long is a piece of string" question bjk! But I really dont think that Dd3 has been expected to do a huge amount of independent reading.

I think it would depend on how supportive the school is too. Dd3 has been offered loads of support initially although she hasnt really needed it yet. Her school runs programs for dyslexic children and children who need additional support with literacy skills (and I guess numeracy)

bjkmummy · 27/10/2014 15:54

ah I see ...... not a straightforward question as I thought then !

dd reading age was about 7 years old so she is about 4 years behind. our reports place her lower whereas the LA has just lopped a year off to make her appear to have a better reading age but he has used our reports???

I just wondered if he had made up her reading age for it to then to read that she would be okay in secondary with no extra support.

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Ineedmorepumpkins · 27/10/2014 20:31

Some of th secondaries are really big now so have a larger range of abilities than primaries!

Dd3 is in high sets for some things and low sets for others which seems to work better for her. She is currently in tye wrong set for english but the teacher is fab and has a real interest in SN's so we are sticking with it at the moment.

I think you should factor in the much larger number of kids. I was utterly panic stricken about Dd3 going to secondary but so far it hasnt been anywhere near as stressful for either of us as we had imagined.

Have a look at the starting secondary thread on here there are others who have posted lots on it too.

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tempe48 · 27/10/2014 20:41

IIRC, ICAN used to reckon children needed to be level 4 in reading to be able to cope in secondary school.

zzzzz · 27/10/2014 21:34

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bjkmummy · 27/10/2014 22:04

no zzzzz it will be national curriculum level 4. I think my daughter is on about level 10 ORT in year 6

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Ineedmorepumpkins · 27/10/2014 22:43

I dont think they would need to be a NC level 4 tbh, that is average, I know children who have been lower than that and have had their needs met in MS secondary. As I said earlier it would depend on the school.

Dd2 was hothoused up from a 3 to a 4 in yr 6 by the HT because she wouldnt accept that Dd2 wasnt able to get the level 4!! All it really did was mask Dd2's difficulties and prevent her from accessing any SEN support!!

Through some good solid teaching and a lucky break in her coursework, she managed to get a C at GCSE, that is the lucky number, if they can get that and maths they can move away from mainstream academics and into vocational stuff which suits dyslexic/quirky kids much better.

Good luck bjk Smile

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KOKOagainandagain · 28/10/2014 07:27

To qualify for a reader in KS2 SATS DC are expected to have a reading age below 9.

In the LA named m/s DC who were not expected to get level 3 KS2 SATs were exempt. DC who got level 3 but not 4 were shunted off into the 'access class' in Year 7 when they started secondary and then started a 'functional skills' curriculum in Year 9.

I was told that places like B&Q are very good at employing disabled people Biscuit

Lifeisfun91 · 28/10/2014 09:35

I have just been told by my DD's new main stream school SENCO that 'a child only needs a reading age of 10 to access GCSE exams' Also because her Short Word reading test is average there is no need to support or allow access arrangements. Her reading rate, accuracy, fluency and processing speed are more that 4 years behind; but apparently that doesn't matter! I'm very confused.

Ineedmorepumpkins · 28/10/2014 09:35

keep Dd2 did btec's at college and passed them with support from the awesome staff, they come with points towards Uni the same as A levels. She didnt go to Uni, her college helped her to get a job in her chosen field.

She left college and went straight into a job that she loves and it certainly isnt B&Q!!

Our kids dont necessarily follow the same path as others but Dd2 is definitely not a sheep and she has carved out her own path, with us behind her supporting her and helping her to access the right support.

IndigoB · 29/10/2014 05:50

Most secondary schools provide reading interventions for pupils with a reading age below 9.

These are normally the same kind if interventions your DD has probably already been on in primary.

A few schools offer 'nurture' groups for pupils who can't access the curriculum but in most schools the pupil just has to cope in class as best as they can.

But a reading age of 9 isn't sufficient to fully access the curriculum. Nor is a reading age of 11.

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