20 minutes.

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20 flipping minutes as how long dd has been at school today.

On my way to go get her brcause she is screaming, kicking and throwing things. Week two on half days after spending three days excluded last week on week 1.

Oh look, once again I am right. It. Won't. Work. But what do I know.

Each week she is getting worse. Big meeting on thurs about it all with various people about what is going on as she is now one step ahead away from permanent exclusion.

Have a meeting next week with Network 81 through SNAP who are helping my friend and her ds. They will be horrified, they were with my friends ds and things are somewhat better for him then my dd.

Aaargghhhhh. This school is so fucking shit it's unreal.

That beats ds2's record of 30 minutes between consecutive exclusions! At least his school did learn from the experience even if long term it was not the right place for him. I have never heard of Network 81 but hope they will be of help for you and your daughter.

That's awful :(
Are there other schools nearby that might be better?

What a shame Xen sorry to hear that

Hope you can get some help!

Ended up being excluded until Thursday. They are excuding her for longer but for less if that makes sense. Today was 'just' kicking, screaming and shouting.

Apparently letter is in the post and no work set as they didn't have time to set any. None was set last week either.

Senco has finally admitted that they can't cope with her and that she needs more help. She is also now fully supportive of the SA and said about applying when I told her I have a tribunal date now. Got to take the paperwork thursday.

be interesting to see what happens thursday.

If they admit they can't meet her needs, that means that the LA is failing to comply with its statutory duty to do so. I suggest you really push them on Thursday for lots of support, whether at this school or elsewhere. They might try to suggest something like a place at a pupil referral unit, which you should probably resist. If by any chance they offer anything more specialist, either full or part time, it might be worth considering provided that they can demonstrate that it has something to offer and won't just be babysitting her.

Well at least something has been accomplished by the day's activities if school are finally acknowledging that your daughter needs SA. Incidentally, did you know school's can only exclude for a maximum of 42 days in the school year. At the rate your school is going they're going to exceed this by Christmas!

I know this goes against the grain but I know people who have had children with Asd in PRU's and schools for EBD. The staff have been superb and highly trained to de stress children. It may be an option for your Dd while you look for somewhere more suitable.

You cant carry on like this it is bonkers

Good luck

Had the meeting today and it went really well.

Behaviour support and someone else (can't remember where from) both agreed all her behaviour problems seem to be anxiety based. The school can't offer any more support, they have given her more then many statemented children have and it hasn't worked.

There were three options after discussing various things in the school that won't work.

1. PRU. Loads of support, few children, loads of adults. She will attend there until ready to go back to her junior school with support.

1. A ASD (I think, may be behaviour) unit in a local mainstream school. Probably won't work at the moment as she will still be in a busy school.

1. A third place which I dont remember now.

We are going with the PRU. It is local and seems what she needs right now. It will be a positive referral I think it's called, so her place at her junior school will stay open for her to return.

A very last resort is a residential placement if/when she has a statement if nothing else works.

As it stands, if we were to aply for SA now, we probably would get an assessment. I have a tribunal date end of November. I need to contact the LA about whether there would be any restrictions on reapplying now, if there isn't, the school want to go down that route as it will be quicker. If not, then tribunal it is. That in itself has given me another question to ask the school.

Paperwork fpr PRU being done tomorrow for me to sign. Panel meetings are every other week so will know officially if she has a place.

Great news. I hope your daughter does as well at her PRU as ds1 did at his.

Thank you.

You know what, I am relieved that at last someone else has picked up that she is very anxious. Means the learning mentor in the school who said dd just needs to conform and everything will be okay couldn't be more wrong.

Need to play things by ear for the next couple of weeks, can't tell dd that she very likely has a place elsewhere until we officially have the offer. Until then, if she is open to going into school each morning, she will, if not, I will be bringing her home if she is too distressed. The headteacher admitted that these next two weeks they will be babysitting her pretty much and as she isn't learning at the moment, she won't be missing much. If I bring her home if she is refusing to go, she won't get excluded.

Another thing, the school admitted in the meeting that they had sent her home a few times last year at 2pm with no letters!

I am glad we are finally getting somewhere. it's a shame it has taken this long though.

Your story sounds a lot like my own did a few years ago, and the behaviour mentor featured prominently in the schools refusal to see that anxiety was a real issue, she also admitted that she didn't write reports that she should have, totally illegal.

I'm glad to see that you're beginning to get somewhere.

You don't need to reapply for assessment, do you? How about approaching the LA, outlining the current situation including the fact that the school couldn't meet needs despite providing more than the equivalent of statemented support, and ask them whether they really are continuing to oppose the appeal. If they agree, it means you don't have to wait 6 weeks while they think about it some more.

Icimoi, that is kind of what I am hoping to do. Discussed it with the deputy head Friday, about making a new request, but didn't know if there was any restrictions from when last asking for SA. I am sure I heard/read about having to wait six months before reapplying.

Have my Network 81 meeting tomorrow who will be helping me with the tribunal paperwork, and hopefully to find out whether we can add what has gone on in the last few weeks at school.

It appears (at the moment) to be better to go ahead with the tribunal as we have a date, and (maybe, hopefully) add new information.

In other news, took dd to school today and ended up bringing her straight home. Her teacher (who she hates for no 'real reason') is off again. Although there was no tears, she refused to leave me, and said she wanted her cat, and refused to move of the chair in the school reception. Had I made her go in, I would have had to drag her and leave her kicking and screaming again, and would have had a call to pick her up pretty soon after dropping her off.

Another update.

The lady from Network 81 was amazing and is helping with the tribunal and will be coming with me to the peadiatrician appointment friday.

We are hoping that the LA will concede and assess. she has emailed the people involved telling them to get the minutes of last weeks TAC meeting and concede.

She really knows her stuff, believes dd may well have ASD and the behaviour is down to that and possibly sensory issues too.

She knows of a couple of independent special schools that will be more suitable for my dds needs but they are out of county, however the LA has been pretty good recently with funding them.

Will see what happens friday with the peadiatrician.

I swear, anyone who lives nearish to Brentwood should visit SNAP. Took me an hour by bus to get there but worth it.