Just musing, curvature of fingers.

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DS has curved little fingers, they kind of bend in towards his other fingers

I'm bored today (!) and have been googling it. Apparently there are links between bent little fingers and autism.

So out of interest, how many of us have autistic children with bent fingers?

Go on, humour me please

Clinodactyl little fingers are also associated with several genetic conditions, including Downs Syndrome and Klinefelters.

DD1 has clinodactyly (curved fingers). She also has very soft, squidgy hands with low muscle tone. She is determined and can hang off things/climb, but still can't open a baby gate (she's 8.6). No ASD dx. She has a brain malformation.

Both ds and dd2 have joint hypermobility and asd . Dd2 s foot turns in quite noticeably

My little fingers bend in towards my other fingers, but I always put this down to playing the flute. Like Polter and polter jr, I'm hypermobile, as are both of my boys.

And unfortunately, my hands are no longer as bendy as they used to be. They still do bend in weird ways, but not when I want them to. Mostly, I drop things.

A big problem for me and DS1 is bendy fingertips. It makes it very hard to grip stuff or rest our weight on our hands without it becoming painful.

The single palmar crease (that used to be called simian crease - deemed offensive as simian refers to apes) used to only be thought of as something associated with developmental issues. But actually it is as common as 1 in 30 people having a single palmar crease. Tony Blair and Robert De Niro have single palmar creases.

DS & I both have very crooked little fingers and toes. I just assumed I was more likely to get arthritis in those digits when old(er)?

Didn't think it was any indicator of developmental differences any more than those people with their two front toes being the same length (ballet en pointe is easier for them!)

Tony Blair and Robert DeNiro aren't the best exemplars of neurotypical - TB cos he's a classic successful psychopath and Robert De Niro cos he's a genius at acting. Increasingly I'm with Temple Grandin in thinking we should be doing more to celebrate our children's strengths instead of just destroying their self-esteem.

I don't know if I have ASD traits or if I'm just allergic to carrots .

@ bochead

I have developed sudden onset carrot allergy in the last few months too

So Google talking nonsense as usual then we reckon!

My toes are the same, zzzzz. I do well to walk from one end to the other in a straight line, without shoes on :o

You guys realise you've just dashed all my childhood fantasies that if I'd only had the right toes, I too could have been like Petra, Pippa and those other swans instead of a lanky mal co-ordinated lollipop .

I don't think it has great significance unless one is invited to take tea with the Queen or Mrs Bucket, then one has an advantage in holding one's teacup.

I have noted that it's a common feature in Renaissance paintings, leading me to think it must have been a common genetic abnormality in the upper classes (that link with holding one's teacup strikes again).

without wanting to out myself as an uber art history/genetics geek - fashion is the reason why it was often seen in Renaissance paintings.The teacup thing is because it was seen as distinctly common to have the little finger in touch with the cup handle, and if it was aloft one could see the family signet ring....

...I'll get my coat.

I was looking at things like two years ago, I was studying all my family in minute detail. I have two partaily webbed toes! What's that about? !

Ooh no, only the menfolk wore the rings, and I suppose if it was a formal tea drinking session...what do I know I come from a big Irish family where we all just slurp down our mugs of tea without all this faffing around about fingers.

hazey - that's OK you can pop round for a cuppa & a sweet potato muffin with a fellow geek. (Discussing pinky fngers in renaissance art is far more interesting than prepping for my next LA meeting . zzzz can come just to ensure that common ol me doesn't lower the tone, and to check the quality of the frosting on the carrot cake.

All the best posh people do, zzzzz. Us peasants were too knackered from all the toil to get up to nefarious shenanigans.

Bendy fingers run in my family on my mother's side. Several bent little fingers, lots of sandal toes (an ironic name, since the last thing you want to do is put them on show in sandals!)

All (afaiknow) NT. But I was 'recommended' an amnio at DS1's 13 wk scan, as he had markers for Downs Syndrome and my chances of carrying a DS child were deemed high.

I only realised relatively recently about the fingers and toes link for certain conditions; quite scary that they were suggesting I 'needed' an amnio. I refused the early scans for the next pregnancies.