Anybody else received final Statement for mainstream with 0 hours 1-1?

[babiki]

Just checking if it is as fu*ked up as I think or if it happens and I just don't know it?

Going to Tribunal in July, would like to know what will Tribunal think when they see it.

Ds with GDD, supposed to start Reception in September. I want him to hold back a year in preschool and start SS next September ( no peer group this year).

Did the LA know what you wanted before they issued the statement?

Same LA in proposed Statement gave DS 20ish hours (cant remember exact amount) TA support but not 1:1 (vague, woolly words which I thought was 1:1, solicitor said no it wasn't). By the time it became Final - all the hours had magically vanished without explanation. They never did account for the missing hours.

This LA doesn't listen to parents at all.

Starlight yes, I've been telling them since last year when we had Tribunal over refusal to asess that I want the SS. Didn't know then that there will be no peer group - of course they knew and didn't say a thing.

Towie, not any TA in any way, nothing is there. Preschool SENCO thinks it must be a mistake.

That;s why they've put no hours then.

They are increasing the cost differential between what they pretend they think your child needs and what you are asking for.

S*it I didn't think about that :(.

Well I received my data request from the MS they named... So in the final statement no mention of LSA or funding, but they accompanied it with letter to school saying ds has been allocated 20 hours of LSA as per SENCO 2 Manual... No idea what it means, if anything, that they have sent it separately ..

What it means is that the 20 hours has been allocated at this point in time but you have no legal right to enforce it if they take it away in three months once your statement appeal right expires!

Is it just me or are most LA's entering a sort of silly season at the moment?

I'm just wondering if we are feeling the impact of EHCP's as the goobermint wants the overall number of children who qualify for these slashed and special academies which carry no protections are being promoted as the net big thang.

There seems to be a higher than normal incidence of outright nonsense around statements at the moment.

I think Lougle has hit the nail on the head.

Yes the whole intention is to remove the link between the document of need and the funding which goes with it. There was a feeling that there's an incentive for providers to embellish or exaggerate need to ensure that a child gets higher funding. I can't say it doesn't happen, although I think in general it is to secure the document in the first place rather than cranking up the funding.

By removing the link between funding and statement/EHCP, that incentive goes.

Thanks Lougle and Bochead. Well Tribunal is 3.7, they knew I will go to Tribunal anyway and they are still behaving like this... If I didn't ask for the data acess request, I wouldn't even know about the letter - maybe they wanted to show triumphantly at Tribunal?

Yes, Bochead, lots of really weird stories around.

babiki, my dds statement was finalised with no mention of any ta hours. she is 8 and in ms and has gdd. there was also no mention of any salt or ot but loads of phrases relating to 'access to a warm and caring member of staff'!! wtaf?

we have our tribunal hearing next month and so far the LA have produced a working document stating dd has access to 26.75 hours of ta time. again this is just unenforceable nonsense. surely every child has access to 26.75 hours of ta time? every class within dds school has a ta!

we have had to get indie reports from salt, ot and ep stating dds needs and the provision required.

Oramum are you in Essex? Or are they going crazy elsewhere...

Good luck with tribunal, let me know how it went. Are you appealing named school as well?

We have quite ok SALT provision and I'm not fighting the OT - the OT team here is beyond useless anyway. I just want ds to stay another year in preschool and then go to SS.

I keep having to resist the urge to ask my lot to have a wee lie down, while I wipe a damp flannel across their confused brows. I'm nowhere near Essex or any of the usual "evil edna" LA's, yet my finalised statement had to be seen to be believed .

I'm glad I don't sit on a Tribunal panel at the moment cos the amount of utter rubbish they are having to read thru at the moment must be really insulting irritating.

We are in Essex and I tried and failed to get 1:1 put in my son's statement. They just kept saying that even if he needed it, they don't put that on statements (blanket policy, or what?).
I said, fine lets see how he does without, considering he uses a wheelchair, manual which he can't propel himself. They still didn't put on statement but he has 1:1 at his brilliant school, for all movement. They are always in the same classroom as him, even though he doesn't need much class help. So the school said they give him 1:1 as it is required even though not explicitly stated on statement.

Sorry if confusing, having a bad day and brain is woolly! Basically we couldn't get it written even though ds has physical requirement, luckily we get it anyway. Without a physical requirement you are going to have one hell of a fight! Good Luck!

sticking did you appeal via sendist?

No,I wimped out I am afraid. The school provide what he needs because it is written into their evacuation policy that one of his assistants has to be with him at all times. If they ever change that policy, I will redo the statement to include the phrase 1:1. It already says everything else but that ratio.

Wow Imstickingwithyou - unbelievable what lies they spread :(. Good that school is providing, but still shameful on the LA.

Bochead yes, I just don't know how can people work like that, it must be soul destroying, surely..

sorry babiki I missed your post earlier....
no we are not in essex and we are only appealing parts 2 and 3 as we are happy with dd attending ms as long as she gets the therapy that is recomended plus the 1:1. thats why it is so important that I have it specified within the statement, as without it she will need a specialist placement.

babiki we did. instead we had shed loads of waffle about 'high level of support' but nothing specified. we appealed and LA gave in.

good luck with your appeal.

our LA even refused to include 'dd needs a high level of adult support' in the statement! this was even recomended by the nhs ot who the LA requested advice from!