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bjkmummy · 01/05/2014 15:52

Refused Smile thanks guys - couldn't have done without you guys..... Now the hard work begins in getting ready. So all the LA have now is the sen officer and that's it, no reports nothing.

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StarlightMcKenzie · 02/05/2014 09:28

I can't bear this any more bk.

5pm tonight, PLEASE let this be the end of it!!!!! (Though they'll probably want to ruin your BH and wait until Tuesday if they're going to back out)

SpringTOWIEDaffs · 02/05/2014 09:30

Utter bastards!

Well if you do end up at Tribunal, then they have absolutely no case, so it's just going to be very embarrassing for them.

bjkmummy · 02/05/2014 09:47

I'm hoping I get to see the actual order today - hopefully the tone of it will be an indication where this heading. I would think though that someone from the LA would have chased it as they will be wanting to know as well if it was going ahead on Wednesday. My SEN officer is unique though towie and I still honestly think this will go ahead. It is personal in part due to the win last year. I've not seen the class teacher at all all week but then she's busy doing the sats all day long with the 2 year six kids. Last time it was the Friday before the hearing on the Tuesday I had their solicitor on the phone but that was also due to paperwork needing to go to the barrister. They have no legal representation this time and this is the first ever a refusal to assess in my LA to end up at tribunal so I've set another precedent.

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bochead · 02/05/2014 10:01

I do wonder if the new EHCP's are throwing LA's into disarray at the moment as the utter daftness quotient seems to be going off the scale all over the place right now.

Good luck for 5pm. The good thing about having gone thru Tribunal before is that the whole process is so much less intimidating a second time.

ouryve · 02/05/2014 10:03

Are you in an LA where there's beer that rhymes with puddles, by any chance? (Have family there). It's Toryville, isn't it? Probably on a Govian mission to deny that Dyslexia even exists.

StarlightMcKenzie · 02/05/2014 10:10

I'm wondering too whether the SEN Person is going ahead with this purely as a training exercise and is on some kind of personal victory mission.

StarlightMcKenzie · 02/05/2014 10:11

You know, if she wins, all hail SEN Woman, but if she loses, all hail SEN Martyr!

bjkmummy · 02/05/2014 10:14

I am in toryville but don't think it's the LA you are thinking off. Dyslexia indeed does not exist here. If you google it on our LA website not a single thing comes up for it so even if they drag the EP there quite what he will say I have no idea! At my last hearing he said the infamous line 'I couldn't possibly comment' when the tribunal asked him outright if a certain decision had been made that morning in the room with the LA!

All the LA keep saying is her needs can be met at school action plus but don't say how! I even had it thrown at me that she had SEN cos DH was in the armed forces. Apart from a single year and the last year now out of county all of her education been in this county. We have 2 large army bases here and the LA as I reminded them had signed the armed forces covenant so it was disappointing that they chose to try and use this as a reason for her SEN. They can't have it both ways - happy to have all the councillors in the press talking about the special relationship with the armed forces and then the LA officers using it as a stick to whack my daughter with!

If I don't hear anything by 5pm today and know I won't - then going on Monday to check out where the hearing is going to be heard as in the next LA to me in a city so we know where we will be going plus will then head into the city centre and going to buy myself something new to wear on weds.

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bjkmummy · 02/05/2014 10:16

It's so personal star and that's my fear all through it that if I win then I will still be the big bad person and no doubt at the next AR for my son they will get me as its year 6 and the tribunal was about primary school.

If I lose then they will have the biggest party ever cos finally they have got the justice they crave

But in all of this will still sit my daughter and what happens to her whilst this ridiculous game is played?

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SpringTOWIEDaffs · 02/05/2014 10:17

personal victory mission

^My betting is it's this. Having seen the behaviour of a senior SEN manager at my DS's Tribunal, these are personal - this looks a lot to be personal because of last year's "win".

The only hope I have for you that they will concede, is that it's going to be very very embarrassing for them in front of a judge.

bjkmummy · 02/05/2014 10:21

I agree star - doesn't help that in the 3 years I've crossed swords with her that I've dragged her to judicial review and they had to back down, dragged them to tribunal which again was personal cos of the JR and won that hands down and now my daughter. They will behind closed doors be making all kinds of accusations about me as a parent but the evidence is over whelming and apart from the LA no one else has any difficulties with us as parents. Granted we crossed swords with a certain school in the LA but I was not the only parent who did - I was just much more verbal and happy to use the law to get it.

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SpringTOWIEDaffs · 02/05/2014 10:30

happy to have all the councillors in the press talking about the special relationship with the armed forces and then the LA officers using it as a stick to whack my daughter with!

Just goes to show what appalling lengths SEN LA bods go to!

I really do wonder about the mentality of SEN LA people - do they get job satisfaction? Do they have morals? Do they go home at the end of the working day and say to their partners "what a great day I had - I screwed helped a parent with a disabled child"

Personally I could NEVER do their job - I would rather go hungry then do what they do.

StarlightMcKenzie · 02/05/2014 10:36

I had a reputation and had to move schools a few times because I could not GET THROUGH to anyone ever due to LA propaganda and a whole host of people treating me as some kind of unhinged aggressive disillusioned idiot on the FIRST time meeting me.

Eventually I 'hid' my child in a Nursery that was licensed to take Reception children and paid for his attendance there (though he was entitled to funding for it I did not want him to appear on any LA radar), with an ABA tutor. I lied to them about his Autism. Denied his diagnosis. Did not disclose his statement. Didn't mention ABA. True mad behaviour no?

Anyway, after two terms it all HAD to be admitted as I needed their help. They had an EP and SALT from the LA go into see him and were absolutely shocked at their vilification.

Despite everything, this nursery backed me completely. Said I was one of the least trouble parents they had ever met. That we had a good working relationship and partnership (my dd also went there).

They made the nursery disclose lots of confidential information that they were not supposed to disclose under the data protection act by telling them that if they didn't they'd get a tribunal to order them to.

When I told the nursery we were leaving the LA they responded with obvious relief on our behalf and helped further with our case with a new LA (as they were put in less of a difficult position).

I will forever be grateful for that nursery for just being so honest and fair. It isn't something I ought to be grateful for, as it something we should all take for granted, but nevertheless they were angels sent.

bochead · 02/05/2014 13:31

I think my awful rep with the last LA has followed me tbh, and that's why the new one have been really so silly to deal with.

Ds is no longer subjected to any day to day nonsense, so it really is just a question of sorting out the paperwork (new statement).

The EP is coming out next week to monitor his curriculum, but still hasn't made contact with his online school yet. I'll just give her the contact details yet again, & a folder with a few of his homework assignments, and let DS talk about his chicks. If she's got any major issues she can take it up with his school.

Then I've asked for a meeting to resolve his blankety blank statement and after that we have the much delayed annual review in June. They've already played the SS investigation hand, and tbh I think the poor woman found me a bit boring.

Hopefully Tribunal will resolve the daft blankety blank statement, and I'll be able to fade into much desired obscurity without fuss.

StarlightMcKenzie · 02/05/2014 13:33

It followed me too Boch but new LA got bored. You see it wasn't personal with them as we had no history and they could do without the hassle.

And on paper I looked pretty reasonable after all.

bochead · 02/05/2014 14:38

I think they are just trying it on, perhaps because of my history with the previous LA, or perhaps just because my surname is very foreign sounding. We all know LA's like to see how much they can get away with.

I cannot see how anyone from the LA would be willing to volunteer to be the one sit in front of a Tribunal panel with the statement in its current format.

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