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normal sleep pattern development - info wanted.

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bochead · 02/01/2014 22:01

DS has a diagnosed sleep disorder. The bit I actually understood of what the consultant said was that he's still like a newborn who hasn't learnt to sleep through the night yet. This means the usual aids like melatonin are ineffective for him. Stress makes him sleep walk/bedwet which in turn makes it even worse, though this has lessened no he's no longer at school & we have a weighted blanket which also helps reduce the sleep walk episodes somewhat in frequency too.

Just recently (as in the last few weeks) he has for the first time he's managing 4 hours at a time uninterrupted kip at night (- it's a flaming miracle from where I'm standing!) However at the same time he's started taking an afternoon nap, (something he NEVER did as a toddler).

I'm sort of wondering if he's moved onto the next stage a very late sleep development curve, cos it does remind me very much of a toddler iyswim. However he's 9! This means all the midwife/HV advice has long since flown the coop.

Sleep experts/clinincs are few and far between (and I can only hassle the GP for so many referrals!) From where I'm standing this is a major improvement in MY quality of life, (as I get some sleep too!) so I don't want to be told to stop him afternoon napping or anything at this early stage by some caring carrot.

What would be helpful is a short refresher course on normal baby/toddler sleep pattern development, so I can map for myself if he's at roughly the 6 month or 3 year stage iyswim. Does anyone have an ijeets guide to this of the non Gina Ford variety or know where I can locate a guide online?

Or even anyone who has a NT baby toddler on here who could advise me? I don't want to post on the normal developmental forum to ask for fear of being told yet again to try lavender oil.

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claw2 · 02/01/2014 22:15

Hi Boc, this is from Millpond Children’s Sleep Clinic
1 week
•daytime: 8 hours

•night time: 8.5 hours
4 weeks
•daytime: 6.75 hours

•night time: 8.75 hours

3 months
•daytime: 5 hours

•night time: 10 hours
6 months
•daytime: 4 hours

•night time: 10 hours
9 months
•daytime: 2.75 hours
•night time: 11.25 hours

12 months
•daytime: 2.5 hours
•night time: 11.5 hours

2 years
•daytime: 1.25 hours

•night time: 11.75 hours

3 years
•daytime: 1 hour

•night time: 11 hours
4 years
•night time: 11.5 hours

5 years
•night time: 11 hours
6 years
•night time: 10.75 hours

7 years
•night time: 10.5 hours
8 years
•night time: 10.25 hours
9 years
•night time: 10 hours
10 years
•night time: 9.75 hours
11 years
•night time: 9.5 hours
12 years
•night time: 9.25 hours
13 years

•night time: 9.25 hours
14 years
•night time: 9 hours
15 years
•night time: 8.75 hours
16 years
•night time: 8.5 hours

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claw2 · 02/01/2014 22:26

Although from my 2 'nt' boys, none of the usual sleep patterns applied.

Ds 1 never seemed to need much sleep from day 1 and didn't sleep anything like the 'norm'. Ds2 did nothing but sleep, I actually took him to my GP, as he slept too much!

Ds3 is 9 and even with Melatonin, he will only sleep 5/6 hours of a night and just doesn't seem tired.

Glad to hear you are finally getting some sleep!

bochead · 02/01/2014 23:24

This is partly why I don't wanna go to an "expert" just yet - it may be just a blip and knowing my luck DS will shortly revert to his sleepless norm. I am gonna start keeping a diary, like I did for the sleep clinic prior to his diagnosis just so I can track it though.

Cranial osteopathy is good, went down that route when he was a babe, but totally ineffective.

Ds does occasionally make the odd weird mahoosive developmental leap, like he did when his imaginative play skills suddenly when from totally non-existent to kinda like a NT 2 year old's at 7. I may be jumping the gun a bit out of years of pent up desperation, but I'm really hoping this is one of those times iykwim.

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claw2 · 03/01/2014 16:52

Ds's sleep pattern depends entirely on the level of stress he is at and routine.

To keep ds's current sleep pattern of asleep by 12 without Melatonin, I have to ensure he is up at 6am even during school holidays. I did lapse on Christmas Day and wake him at 7am, which then plays havoc with his sleep pattern.

During times of extreme stress, even with Melatonin, I am very lucky if he is asleep at 12.

Establishing a fool proof sleep pattern, means I can never be sick, I can never over sleep, I can never make car journeys which put ds to sleep, even a 5 minute nap is like a 5 hour sleep to ds!

Ds's 'natural' sleep pattern would be awake all night, then sleep during the day!

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