Anyone with older DC who are being affected by the new requirement to keep studying for a level 2 qualification at college in Maths/English regardless of SN?

[Donki]

What do you think of it?
Do you think that with good support all students are capable of passing Functional Skills Maths/English at Level 2 (as Mr Gove clearly does?)
Do you think that some students would be better off concentrating on their strengths if they are struggling with FS Maths?

I hate how kids who have genuine problems with English and maths are made to feel so inadequate.

I don't think Gove is aware that some people have SN.

Gove deffo has issues with theory of mind himself.

It's really winding me up at the moment. I know several students who are really struggling with this.

DS (now with 2 Masters degrees) have to take GCSE English twice before he secured a C.

His grammar has always been excellent, his spelling too, but ask him to explain how a character in a 'poem from another land' is feeling and he didn't know where to start.

This should have been an English lit GCSE and not an English Lang GCSE question.

We had to hothouse him to within a degree of his life to get that C.

^ mt Ebglish looks pretty poor in that post abouve

Meant to say - it's definitely worth perserving as everything wants GCSE Maths and English at C.

Wet We have high expectations and some students do far better than anyone had ever hoped. We do not give up.
But other students with language disorders and learning difficulties of diverse kinds are really finding the whole thing soul destroying.

I'm not sure that it is always worth persevering - many young people keep retaking and failing which destroys their self confidence.

It's true that universities and many employers want English and maths at C or above, but it can be a crude measure of ability which excludes those with skills in other areas.

If pupils with or without SEN have to retake then surely that's an indicator that they need specialist support (not sitting in a group with a TA following an off the shelf scheme) in order to achieve the qualification...any funding for that then Mr Gove?

What about those students doing level 1 or level qualifications at 6th form college? Who may be in the 6th form for 3 or even 4 years, working on life skills and a subject that suits their strengths/interests - and have now failed level 2 maths for the third time (with specialist 1 to 1 support)? And are starting to say they hate maths. And getting really anxious about the continued failure?

It's a pain in the ass. Flyingboy has reached the zenith of what he can achieve yet he still has to sit through these sessions. I've told him to just do it and it doesn't matter but I wish the whole thing would just go away.