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A letter to marketing depts.

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Thomcat · 18/02/2004 16:27

I can see where I get it from now!!!!
my mum just sent me this draft leeter that she intends to send off to Pampers, Mini Boden and so on......

I am writing this as the grandmother of two-year old Charlotte - a social, bright and joyful child. As it happens, she is also very pretty with huge grey eyes and a delightful smile. Oh, and by the way she happens to have Down?s syndrome.
The advertising used by your company, both through the media and T.V, is obviously child-orientated because of your particular product. Yet I have never seen a child with ?special needs? portrayed in your advertising. No sign of a child with glasses, a child wearing a hearing-aid ? or a child with Down?s syndrome.
Could this be because your marketing department perceive that only children without special needs are ?perfect?. Do you think, maybe, that the public might be shocked at seeing a beautiful baby or child with Down?s syndrome facial features in their magazines or on their TV screens?
To press my point, I?m attaching a picture of our Lottie, not because I, or her parents, are angling for her to be ?chosen? as a child model. No, my motive for writing is to promote children with special needs ? to point out to the advertising departments that there are many gorgeous kids out there ? yes, they may wear glasses, they may have a limp, they may wear a hearing aid. But so what? My tiny mission, if you like, is to draw to the attention of you manufacturers that there is discrimination lurking out there ? there?s unfairness being shown to thousands of little ones such as Lottie.
This was a subject I would never have thought about until she touched our lives.
And now she has, I feel a strong need to ensure she, and others like her, get a fair deal.
Come on advertising and marketing departments ? show me I?m wrong and I?m just being cynical. I?d love to hear your views.

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MammyShirl · 18/02/2004 16:40

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - what a super mum you've got!

i have never really thought about that and as your mother said nor did she until lottie came into your lives!

id like to know what they all say about it - you must tell us.

Northerner · 18/02/2004 16:43

Thomcat I think that is wonderful. What a fantastic, well constructed letter. I for one would love to hear about the replys to that one. Keep us posted.

Thomcat · 18/02/2004 16:51

Yes I'll let you know what, if anything, the responses are.

I just want to stress that neither my mum, DP or I are interested in Lottie getting into any sort of modelling, but if this letter makes just one advertising agency / manufacturer think about things then I'll be happy.

I've personally never seen a child in a wheelchair in a toy catalogue and why not aye? Do children who use wheelchairs not play with ELC toys and so on.

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eidsvold · 18/02/2004 16:53

I agree with you and your mum tc - I ahve thought that for a long time and even in an email letter to the editor chastised one of the parenting magazines for their lack of using children with special needs for advertising or articles. Surprisingly I never got a reply. Be intrigued to see what comes of your mum's letter.

Perhaps we should all bombard them with pics of our gorgeous kids... then they will have no excuse.

Northerner · 18/02/2004 16:55

This discrimination is not exclusive to babies/children either is it? I don't see any disabled adult models either, do you?

lou33 · 18/02/2004 16:58

Great letter TC.

I read in the paper the other day, that the BBC have issued a directive that 1 in every 50 characters in their programmes has to be disabled from now on. Not sure just how that will pan out, could end up as some sort of tokenism, rather than reflecting real life. And will they get real disabled people to play the parts, or will it be someone pretending ?

katierocket · 18/02/2004 17:01

good letter thomcat - which companies is she sending it to?

Blu · 18/02/2004 17:11

Good on your Mum, TC!

Virgin Mobile DID use my mate Mat Fraser (actor from that series...Metrosexuality? He has short arms)in their ad. He was on the top of a bus...

UNFORTUNATELY the ad industry has some research which shows that consumers are put off products which are associated with special needs, esp in children, they seem to subliminally imagine that it is catching from the product. So attitudes within society as a whole have a lot to answer for. I discovered this when I was trying to get Wrigleys Gum to donate loads of supplies for a theatre show I was working on. The gum would have been used as a token of friendship between 2 children...but guess what? One was disabled, so they refused. (Heinz wouldn't donate beans, either when they fund out they would be eaten straight from the can...not the same thing, but they are all SO finicky about image).

This WAS a long time ago...and I'd love to know what response your Mum gets.

Blu · 18/02/2004 17:13

Lou, I think the disabled lobby within equity will ensure that they use actors who are disabled..

hmb · 18/02/2004 17:20

The only ad with an adult disabled person in that I can think of is the one with that amazing female runner with the fantastic sci-fi like super legs....great woman, crap ad, as I can't remember what it was for.

Richard Curtis is one person in the media who uses characters with disabilities, not so good on using actors with disabilities though.

I thought the 'Making of' Lord of the Rings documentery gave a very positive insight into the role of the 'height' doubles and all the work that they did for the film. Shame it didn't get more cover.

coppertop · 18/02/2004 17:27

What a great, well-written letter. I hope your mum gets some answers, Thomcat.

bundle · 18/02/2004 17:34

there is a lovely picture of a girl with downs syndrome in the latest junior (and it's not a piece about downs, iykwim)

Thomcat · 18/02/2004 17:43

Northener - yes you're right, we were thinking along the lines of children because of Charlotte and just naturally went down the kiddie route, but your're right.

Blu - isn't that disgusting Blu - makes me feel sick to think anyone could think like that. makes me feel even more stongly about the importance of this letter now.

Edisvold - and actually anyone who wants to join in - join in in sending letters of the same nature. Maybe we can get just one person to change theri outlook and that would be great.

Katierocket - she's going to bombard as many as she can. Pampers, all nappy companies, mini Boden, GLTC, ELC, etc Any suggestions etc most welcome.

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Thomcat · 18/02/2004 17:44

That's great to know Bundle, I'll make sure we don't write to them then. Have to say I've always thought Junior was a great mag.

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bundle · 18/02/2004 17:51

I always thought it a bit snooty, and some bonkers stuff on autism was picked up on a thread here recently - but it's been rehabilitated IMO with that picture (only flicked thru it so far, but think it was a piece about happiness).
I agree with what you're saying about how people are represented, and that it's a bit 'clunky' when 'different' people are plonked into situations, sort of social engineering - but it works sometimes eg the girl in the wheelchair in Balamory, dd1 just thinks of as another of the characters - sorry real people! - who lives there. I know someone who's just made a programme about the way that people with downs syndrome are treated in different cultures. really interesting.

Hulababy · 18/02/2004 17:51

What a fab mum you have - good on her, and you too!

Thomcat · 18/02/2004 17:57

Bundle, well I've only read it a couple of times but thought it was a nice mag, but can't really comment, you seem to know far more and I think you're probably right about the snooty thing tbh. Talking of knowing more I would love to know more about this TV programme.

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bundle · 18/02/2004 17:58

it's radio, going to be on the world service

Blu · 18/02/2004 18:10

Elmo's World always has lots of different kids, lots of differnt abilities etc.

The thing is that the BBC etc have a Public Service Broadcast remit, and are accountable for this kind of thing. Commercial manufacturers will jus follow the money with no though for anyone. And the other nasty, cynical point is that to them, people with special needs are often low down the spending-power hierarchy.

BUT a few years ago, there was barely any representation of black people in ads, and that has changed (some 'although's about roles and stereotypes, perhaps...), and that was partly due to pressure and awareness raising by consumers...so more letters like TC's Mum's!

eidsvold · 18/02/2004 19:52

Interesting that you say that about the BBC - the DSA has recently made a complaint to them for a character in the Cubix cartoon called 'mong'

can you believe that word is still in use....

Curious given that in a recent BBC website poll the most offensive words were as followed:

spastic, retard 'mong' - was fourth followed by spastic and cripple.

However, they have no plans to amend the cartoon nor rule out further broadcasts. They have agreed , on the other hand, to neither issue nore renew licences for any merchandising that includes the 'Mong' character.

The only other ad I can think of was the teaching ad that showed a scene with a teacher in a wheel chair and another scene with a child with down's syndrome.

bobthebaby · 18/02/2004 20:23

I would like to see kids with eczema and birthmarks also. Obviously J&J would not be interested, but it makes no difference to clothes etc.

Here in NZ children are a lot more natural in commercials (often just friends of people at the ad agency) I was shocked at how airbrushed and ridiculous UK baby models are. No kid looks like that -not even the kid they took the photo of.

RexandBen · 18/02/2004 20:32

great letter! hoepfully they will stand up and listen

lou33 · 18/02/2004 21:53

There was a film out recently, which kept referring to people as retarded, and other such pleasantries. From the states , some high school type baloney. I find it really offensive that special needs seem to be the only group left people can make fun of.

tamum · 18/02/2004 22:10

That's a fantastic letter, TC. I guess ELC must have changed- I haven't seen one of their catalogues for a while, but when my ds was little they definitely used to use models with a range of specical needs. There were a few children in wheelchairs, and I remember at least one little girl with DS. That's actually very interesting (assuming I haven't lost my mind)- why would they have a deliberately inclusive policy with advertising and then stop?

misdee · 18/02/2004 22:18

bobthebaby
i also would like to see kids with ezcema being used. dd1 has the biggest brown eyes imaginable, the comments she got about her eyes when she was younger used to make me smile. i never put her in for modelling as her skin was so bad back then. now she is a bossy little kid who probablyy wouldnt let anyone take her foto so she is just my little cutie.
i think a friend of mieows has a dd with cp who is a child model.