WHAT WOULD YOU DO ????????????

[sleepwalker]

WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF MOST NIGHTS YOUR CHILD WAS COMING HOME FROM SCHOOL AND WHEN YOU ASK HIM "DID YOU ENJOY YOUR DAY AT SCHOOL"HE TELLS YOU HOW THE SAME CHILDREN DAY AFTER DAY HAVE BEEN BULLYING HIM AND NOW HE TELLS US THAT HE WANTS TO TAKE A KNIFE OR GUN TO SCHOOL TO KILL THESE CHILDREN !!!!!
2 MONTHS AGO HE STARTED WAKING ME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO TELL ME HE HAD A BAD DREAM WHERE WE WERE ALL DEAD AND HE HAD DONE IT.
MY SON IS 9.11 WHAT DO YOU DO

what have the school said ? im not much help but it is obviously a desperate situation

The first thing I would do is to speak to the school about the bullying. Ask to see their written policy for bullying and make sure the school follow it. If they refuse then take it higher - the governors, the LEA etc. If my ds was obviously very distressed by it all I would also be considering asking the GP for a sicknote and keeping him off school for a while.

Does your ds have a statement? Does he see any professionals? eg Paed, CAMHS etc.

THE TEACHER WHO IS ALSO THE SENCO HAS TOLD ME THE BULLING IS IN HIS HEAD AND THAT HE IS ALWAYS ACCUSING THE OTHER CHILDREN IN HIS CLASS OF TAKING HIS STUFF HE IS ALWAYS CRYING OVER ANY THING HE DOES HAVE A CONDITION CALLED NLD BUT GETS NO HELP AT SCHOOL

sleepwalker can you switch your caps off.

i would find him a new school personally.

Sorry
i have tried went to another local school saw the head who told me he would have to talk to my sons headmaster and that he would ring me that eve.
He did ring and i was told that liam would need so much extra help that they could not take him.
What really peeees me is that his school will not try for a statement becouse of grey area

That sounds awful. The right school can make such a big difference. The school's attitude sounds terrible. Have you spoken to the Head or does he/she automatically agree with the teacher?

I would be seriously considering a change of school. Even if the SENCO is right then surely she should be looking into why your ds would be making this up and coming up with strategies to support him. A SENCO who just brushes things off with "It's all in his head" seems like a waste of space to me. I would be using the rest of this term to investigate other schools in the area and find one who can provide him with the support he needs.

Agree with coppertop. Gosh, it sounds awful .

I could be wrong but I thought it was illegal to refuse to take a child because of their SN?

Have a look at the IPSEA website. It sounds as though you should go ahead with applying for a statement yourself.

No statement been seen by ed psy waste of time accused us of keeping him in bedroom as he drew a picture of himself in his room
he sees peads and is going on fri to see psychiatrist and clinical nurse they think he may have to have meds but scared to death about him going to secondary school as he will do anything for a friend and he can't write reading ok maths bad what do you do

IPSEA has a telephone helpline. It can be difficult to get through because the lines are so busy but keep pressing re-dial until you can speak to someone. They will be able to help you to decide what action to take. Phone right now if you possibly can.

IPSEA

Will do and thank you

The thing is you think of teachers like doctors if you know what i mean they must know what they are on about and they say that if the child make a little inprovement no statement will be given

Your poor DS - he needs to be in a more supportive school asap. Have you considered home schooling him or is this not an option?.

When it comes to applying for a statement you as the parent have the most influence on the LEA. A request for such a document carries more weight if it is made by the parents. Also parents have the right to appeal if LEA say no, school do not.

Would recommend also you speak with IPSEA as a matter of urgency. Their phone number is 0800 0184016.

Sleepwalker,

re your comment:-
"The thing is you think of teachers like doctors if you know what i mean they must know what they are on about and they say that if the child make a little inprovement no statement will be given".

Some schools like the one your DS currently attends also spout a load of old nonsense like the above which is primarily designed to put people off. They have no say at all in whether a statement should be issued or otherwise (that's the LEA's decision).

Hi
How do i go about home schooling would love to get him out of school.

A special needs school would not take him but he should not be in main steam as he can't cope its like being in limbo there is nothing out there he is just left to get on with it

misdee - why should sleepwalker switch her caps off????

I don't think she likes them

Education Otherwise have a good website. You could also have a look at mumsnet's Education:Home Ed section. If you can't find what you need then start a new thread. I think a few mumsnetters Home Ed now.

I will have a good look later Thanks

If your not happy about what is happening for your son then you need to stand up and shout about it. Did you see the ed phyc after the report for an explanation. Surely if he is making no progress then they are failing to meet his needs.
Have you taken him to the gp.

Maybe we are too trusting the school does not like us are face does not fit i am sure that when the head sees me he goes the other way (no joke).

In sep he will be in his last year at primary and by the end of sep you have to decide what secondary he will attend scarey

If i go down that road

Sleepwalker.

Attilas already told you the number, but DO contact Ipsea, and look at their webpage.

You can put in a statement request yourself, you can have supporting evidence from the pead and clinical psych, also if the LEA do refuse to assess as a parent you can appeal, schools have to wait 6 months between applications [I think!]

Whilst your getting that in motion by all menas pull him from school and home ed till a decent support network is in place for him. No-one knows a child better then the parents, and as sush you are in the best position to fight for his needs, the system is failing him and they need to be sorted.

And as for the SENCo comment and for you xx

and the Capslock thing, its like being shouted at but under the circumstances I'd be shouting at teh topof my lungs to get ANYONE to listen.

We've been there sweetie and it's horrid for all the fmily isn't it, aleit for different reasons.

what's his condition? sam does the bullying thing, sometimes it is a misunderstanding (because of the As he doesn't get the cause and effect thing so can't relate provocation or understand the workings of interactions) other times he is black and blue though so it's definitely something.

Calling IPSEA helped me be strong wnought to pursue things with the school (catalysed by ignorant teacher) and as a result they are taking the whole thing of Sam so much more seriously. BIBIC (www.bibic.org.uk) also heklped by going in to do some training for his teacher. Also Kidscape helpline were fabulous and talked me through it all, I hadn't realised that Ds's particular type of school was notorious for this scenario.

We also can't move, catchment / other sibling issues.

Feel free to CAt me if you need a chat and thining of you and yours. XXX

There's a line in a song that kept me going- it's in Filthy Gorgeous (Scissor sisters)

'If you don't make a sound how's anybodt gonna listen' (probable mis quote)

Thanks for being supportive.

liam has NLD nonverbal learning disabilities
very sim to aspergers.
we were told he had aspergers when he was 3 and then they changed it 3 years ago to NLD