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Lea have acknowledged my request for SA

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2boysnamedR · 16/09/2013 18:57

So it begins! Will the school know by now? I had my acknowledgment today. Sigh

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StarlightMcKenzie · 16/09/2013 19:01

Yes. School will know now. Though they might not pay any attention for a bit and until they are formally requested information.

2boysnamedR · 16/09/2013 20:49

Good, two weeks into term and no iep yet. Senco told me the request will be flat turned down as the school can say they have no evidence ( told it takes a year to gather enough evidence) I guess one failed iep at school action plus isn't evidence. We will see. Either way I hope the sence will realise I'm clued up and know what's being told to me is a pile of poo

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StarlightMcKenzie · 16/09/2013 21:08

The senco may well believe what he/she says.

2boysnamedR · 16/09/2013 21:35

Maybe, I'm just so cynical after all these years. She did show me my lea criteria for a statement which said you have to be than two years delayed in two areas. So if you had writing age of a two year at 11 but could read you wouldn't get a statement. I don't know who I can trust any more so by default assume I can't trust anyone. My son has a physical and mental disability which has gone unseen for over four years dispite all the 'experts' involved in his care.

I do trust his pead and OT - so I'm not totally paranoid ( but there's still time! Lol)

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WetAugust · 16/09/2013 22:43

She did show me my lea criteria for a statement which said you have to be than two years delayed in two areas.

Ask her for a photocopy of that - then send it to IPSEA, as your LA is operating a blanket policy - which is an illegal act. IPSEA want to know about these rogue LAs.

Rule of thumb - don't trust anyone who may be asked to spend money on difficulties they identify. Those people tend to turn a blind eye to difficulties - it's cheaper that way for them.

claw2 · 17/09/2013 09:29

That's rubbish, ds is average in academics or above average in some areas, like reading. He also scores average in most expert assessment, such as SALT. He was even described as 'gifted' at one point a few years ago.

Would be interested to know how they assess two years delayed in social, emotional, anxiety, eating, using the toilet, sensory, having language they can use effectively etc, etc.

There are plenty of barriers to education, apart from academics

okthatsweird · 17/09/2013 11:50

Agree claw there are other areas which affect learning. What are your Ds's levels 2boys...if you don't mind me asking? How old is he? Do you still have his school reports from previous years? Does he bring home his books at the end of the school year?

armani · 17/09/2013 11:59

the senco at dds school fully believed the crap she was telling me, she had been told all of it from the lea. she even told me that if the lea refused to assess I could not request SA again Shock

my advice to you would be to ensure that you submit as much evidence as you can, as school are saying they have none.
good luck!

2boysnamedR · 17/09/2013 13:07

My son is in year one, he couldn't spell his name for his pead over the summer, he didn't know his numbers 0-9 and could read for her. This was all on the peads report and the numbers was a failed iep target. Both went in with in with the sa. I don't know- maybe expecting your 5.10 year to be spell there number and recognise 0-9 is just too high? Maybe the next iep should aim for him to breath in out. I don't think I'm expecting too much.

The two year rule must be poo as my friends son had a statement at four before starting school. I don't many two years who can write their name

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2boysnamedR · 17/09/2013 13:08

He couldn't read for her - just like I can't type!

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okthatsweird · 17/09/2013 14:16

OK so your Ds is a bit younger...almost 6, my Ds is 8. I should imagine the reports from pead will have some weight...if anything it will show he is unable to transfer learned information from one setting to another should the school say differently. Did he have a report at the end of reception class? this may give you some additional info about where he was academically just keep collecting what info you can for the time being so during parents evening if you get to see any teacher assessments marked in his work books make a note, anything the CT tells you which you feel would be beneficial towards your SA request. So how long did he have the first IEP?

Yeah the 2 year rule is rubbish, but I have heard that many times. Many things should be taken into consideration including attendance, teacher assessments results, school reports, communication and interaction, cognitive abilities, rate of learning, Reports from all professionals involved with Dc, IEP's and reviews etc etc. Like I said keep a note of your Ds's levels. For my DS YR 1 was all about the behaviour(refusing to do his written work) so levels were never mentioned yet I was told he was doing well during parents evenings. My Ds completely shut down and was working on the P levels at the beginning of YR 2 until I sent a letter voicing my concerns when I 'accidently' found out about this then he got level 2's across the board for his KS1 SATS. By the end of YR 3 his levels were Maths 2a (so up 1 sub-level in 13 months), writing 1b (which hasn't changed at all according to his teacher assessments in his work books and has gone down a whole level according to his SATS results), and reading 3a (a whole level up since his SATS) and he has had support with all of these things to boot.

2boysnamedR · 17/09/2013 15:09

Okthatsweird - has your ds got a statement? His report at the end of year r was pretty damming 'he is a amazing artist..' Kind if thing. He was 75% emerging across the board. The school seem to be pretty naff at measuring progress by using a standard method eg speech. I have told them this and they are getting training to use a standard test like clef in the future.

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2boysnamedR · 17/09/2013 15:11

I think that why his iep target in speech was not completed - they can't measure what they are doing! He had one iep for last term, yet to see. A new one, I am going to give them four weeks then makes a appointment to go in - preferably to see ct and senco together

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okthatsweird · 17/09/2013 17:00

No statement yet 2boys we are at the same stage in the process as you, just waiting for them to gather their info and say yes or no to the SA. Nobody has said anything at school about the SA request, but (even though I think it's fantastic) I haven't seen my Ds as relaxed as he is now since he was in reception class.Hmm He has just been chatting about his really good day Shock and from what he has said I think he is now getting 1-1 support in most lessons??

Just keep saving any info you can, as I have been told the SA road can be quite a lengthy process.

AgnesDiPesto · 17/09/2013 18:27

You can always tell them if you get turned down you will be appealing and as you have 2 months to appeal and then there is 6 month wait for tribunal slot you will have plenty of evidence by then Wink

2boysnamedR · 17/09/2013 18:56

Oh yes I'm going to appeal, seems like its a road you have to get off at end, not where it dumps you. I'd rather be taking him to Colin lessons and preparing him life at Oxford but alas it's hoping his school and him have both failed enough to get some more help in. Oh the joys. Even it we get no statement it's a kick up the bum for school and good chance to really really measure his progress properly. One iep a year for the autum and summer term with 20inutes a day 1:1 isn't working, although they doing him a massive favour in providing that. ( or so the senco tells me).

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bjkmummy · 18/09/2013 11:35

my school are saying that even though my daughters reading age is 6 and she is 10 this isn't enough to get a statement - you can only get a statement if at year 6 your levels are lower than a 2a which means 4 years im guessing. im waiting now to see what the private EP says, my LA wont even attempt to call them in as it costs money and they say EP wont see her as shes not struggling enough. my daughter school isout of county so we are coming under the neighbouring authority rules whereas any application would go my LA who have no such policies. I only moved her to this school 6 months ago under the promise they would do this that and the other for her, now im questioning well where is this help then they have now given me this load of garbage.

2boysnamedR · 18/09/2013 12:34

I have been told the ed pyh will be called in this year, he'd better be! But if I ask when it's all 'how long is a piece of string?' That's why I called my mp in to help with his salt at school

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claw2 · 19/09/2013 22:58

If they agree to SA your ds will be seen by EP within 10 weeks! (I think that's the time limit from memory)

2boysnamedR · 19/09/2013 23:07

Went into see the ct today and she could pass him for a totally normal boy who is very slightly wacky. I have to remember what's happened this year and be strong. He was walking around the classroom with his bum hanging out and one shoe off. Have to remember he isn't just a cute forgetful toddler but a growing kid who can't feel the air on his bum or get his shoe back on. Teacher is lovely but she did say ds when benefit from riding a bike. That's when it hit me, he can't ride a bike as he can not coordinate his limbs or balance. So I know that, I need to get the school to understand. He was bumping into other kids and the equipment in pe - because he has little body awareness ( hence trousers always down past his bum!). He gets four hours intervention a week. It's not really a lot

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