looks like i am going to have to keep ds at home again cos school cant / wont deal with his behaviour :(

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we suspect he has AS, no one at school know what it is or how to cope with an AS child, they are waiting for the ed psy/ clinical psy / school doc etc to get their acts together before they will even consider taking advice. where the harm is in trying i dont know, but i am told they have to follow school procedure. my friend is an sn teacher with loads of experience of AS and autism and has offered to go in free of charge - they said they cant just let anyone go in cos they dont know who she is, she might be making it all up. wtf?? ask the sodding lea, oh no we cant do that, have to follow procedure. stupid, stupid, head.

so instead of giving it a go, they are constantly getting me to bring him home early cos they dont know what to do when he gets boisterous and today when i asked if it would just be better to keep him at home, head suggested asking new school if they could take him before september "because it is unlikely that they will want him with a string of exclusions on his record, of course i cant tell you what to do, its your decision" which i assume is code for "if you dont remove him we will carry on excluding him so he will never get into a decent school so you better take him away but we wont say that officially, we have to pretend its your choice when really there is no choice at all".

cant post what really i want to because i dont want to offend people with explicit language. i shall just say i dont really like her much and dont think she is very good at her job

hi im new to this site and i have just read ur message. well i have an autistic daughter who was in same place as ur son (with school) they was always sending her home because they couldnt handle her, and i could. the parent partnership lady said they was illigally excluding her every time i picked her up as the school isnt meant to exclude them thats many times. my daughter started a special needs school after easter and she is doing fantastic. shes a changed person. no longer behaving badly at school.
the head teacher from old school wouldnt admit they couldnt cope with her so we made the decision to remove her. the fact that she spent most of her time at home didnt affect her new school as they understood that her old school wasnt helping in any way.
well i just wanted to say chin up and stick to it. you Will get the help you need. it just takes time.

What age is he gg?

I'm appalled that the school is disregarding its reponsibilities and asking you to bring him home as they can't cope!

Perhaps someone on here with more experience of AS can make some practical suggestions.

Anyone?

he is 7 reiver. thankfully the school he is starting at in sept doesnt mind at all if he has a string of exclusions (talked to them today) and are happy to take him because they know what they are dealing with and actually care!

thanks for posting flutterfly (and welcome to mn if no one has said it!), im so glad your little girl is doing well - both for her and for my son! the poor head at the new school must be sick of me ringing but i am so worried we will change school and everything will be as bad (or worse). its not an sn school but the teachers there have experience of AS and are willing to try the strategies without a statement or diagnosis which can only be a good thing.

now if anyone can help me word a letter to the head of current school telling her he is leaving because she is such an ignorant old witch then that would be very helpful... cant think of any way of putting it politely for some reason

The new school sounds a much better option for your son - good to hear that they care and are willing to try a range of stategies. What stage are you at regarding a statement I wonder? Have you requested one or is it being actioned by the school?

dont know if it works the same everywhere, here you have to be assessed to see if things are bad enough for them to go ahead and assess him for a statement (does that sound familiar?) and we have got through the first assessment, so are waiting to hear back from ed psy. should be seeing clinical psy in about 5 months (fingers crossed waiting list doesnt grow).

i asked for the statement after someone on here told me i could. he has been on school action plus for over a year but no further. loads of ieps etc so they can say they have done it all by the book, just nothing useful in any of them.

tbh i am quite relieved that he wont be going back. am not pleased that he has been forced out tho

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we are still waiting to hear the educational psychologists report, but have been told not to hold our breath as statements are like gold dust. can take about a year to get a result. not sure from your post, are you after info for your son? loads /link{http://www.lancashireparentpartnership.org.uk/LPP%20-%20A%20Guide%20for%20Parents%20&%20Carers/P1%20-%20Introduction.htm\here} if you want it, these are the people who helped me apply to the lea. statement means extra funding is given to the school so they can pay for support or whatever they need to help.

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ggg- so soory that your son is having sich an awful time of it. Please just be a little careful, the Head is being very astute in her actions.
If you withdraw ds, make sure (get it in writing)that any funding he recieves goes with him straight away. The new school need to be able to support him in the right way with extra adults if possible.
I don't know where you are, but am presuming it is Lancashire. The statement , if and when you get it, is not a magic wand. It only works in the right setting, so you need to get ds into the new school. Make sure that withdrawing him from the current school doesn't affect anything else. Talk to the new HEad in depth about your son's needs and the exact provision they intend to make- ie support in the classroom, at lunchtime, diffrentaited work, time out/ or a calm place if he gets too boisterous- with whom, for how long etc etc
I am NOT an expert in AS but think you need to get the best advice you can before officially withdrawing him.
Good luck.

btw GGG how is Lancaster? I was born and bred there and do miss it. We moved when I was 14... down south... never really got over it! Would love to move back there.

GG

Re your comment:-

"here you have to be assessed to see if things are bad enough for them to go ahead and assess him for a statement"

Actually if the LEA are indeed doing this then IPSEA would be very interested. LEA's are not allowed to do such things - its illegal for a start to use blanket policies like this!!. Many LEA's have been pulled up sharp by the Dfes for this.

Am glad he is being moved to a more caring school.
He is certainly being failed at the other place.

You need a Statement though - no two ways about it. It is not a magic wand but it will help your son if you receive such a document. It will outline his difficulties and strategies to help him. It will also give you a set number of hours per week support (more than on SA or SA plus). Also and most importantly, such a document is legally binding.

Infact I would talk with IPSEA anyway (they have a freephone helpline number) and discuss your case with them. They have much experience of LEA's and also have clout - they have succeeded in bringing many LEA's to book.

www.ipsea.org.uk is their website

good luck with it essbee, i hope it works out. its wierd really, school started out being really helpful but then ran out of ideas and now dont seem to care any more, they seem to have just given up. bizarre how things have changed so much

im in lancaster robinpud! has changed a fair bit, they seem to be trying to make the city centre all posh, lots of new flats selling for ridiculous prices.

i am well aware a statement doesnt necessarily change anything, thats why i am more bothered about moving to the new school. i think he will do better there even without a statement, so if they can get extra funding that would be a bonus. had not considered the funding the old school gets, i will call the lea now and make sure they are aware of the situation

have never heard of ipsea attila, but what you are saying sounds very interesting. i have heard various people saying the lea is a bit dodgy - they gave out too many statements so are now cracking down and it is very hard to get them, also i was advised to look into a private diagnosis but according to my very helpful lea they dont have to take any notice of it if one of their staff disagrees (or something, its a losing battle anyway). will have a look at that aswell

thanks for advice ladies, now i have to be off and do something constructive with him!

GGG my advice is to contact IPSEA ASAP.

My DS who is 9 and has AS has been out of school since Nov 05, with him he is well behaved but cannot cope with the playground and social side of things but school have refused to see a problem, last year it got really bad and he was self harming so we removed him.
Our LEA have refused to asess him on the grounds that "we note his high academic ability"
So we are taking the LEA to tribunal but in the meantime he,s still out of school.

From our experience and other mums on here it would seem that most schools dont know/wont deal with behaviour from AS/ASD schools, we are hoping to get DS into a special school but when that will be i dont know.