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TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 19:23

We and even the LEA are stuggling to find a school for ds3 .He is fuly statemented is in y3 atm.He is in a speech unit but as they can not cure the condition and can not improve any more he no longer meets the crtera .as well as the fact they are struggling with his physical needs and ds3 struggles in ms class of thirty in afternoon with a helper for the four of them from the unit

He has several dx
MLD has been ruled out as in lot ways ignoring his pd he is mentally able
we tried for a
PD ss but after two days assessment there they said no as e s to far mentally than either of her primary classes but secondary would be ok as they on split site

But LEA have approached lots of Ms schools three times now and they refused saying that it would then be at detriment of other dc and his needs are to complex

so come September nothng in place

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StarlightMcKenzie · 28/05/2013 20:26

Oh he could SO come to MY school, the one in my head that I wish I had the resources to start.

Sorry, not especially helpful but I'd want him. Just so you know.

TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 20:26

nope they say no same as ones with speech unit and or asd unit .I actually feel sorry for caseworker as she is really trying hence they keep giving more hours

she has asked how i feel about them putting in tuotors at home good one way but reality he needs school and i need a break to

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MareeeyaDoloures · 28/05/2013 20:28

they take pure hearing loss not PD and rest of extras

Nope. Equalities act. You can't simply opt-out of disability discrimination rules on the grounds of being for some other disability. Not been tested yet, but they wouldn't win. Though (in fairness) his hearing loss not being severe enough might be a reason to turn him down, if they could prove that it was 'not severe' in terms of the educational impact, rather than just 'not severe' on the audiogram. The 'affect other dc too much' grounds, would probably apply too, if they could prove them.

Mind you, the LA would also really struggle to justify booted out of speech unit as aimed at children with curable conditions. And it might be worth a try at challenging his social and communication needs going unmet because it's his lack of language rather than asd

MareeeyaDoloures · 28/05/2013 20:29

Tutors at home? With interaction and social communication needs? Hmm

TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 20:29

starlight thank you

people meet him adore him even the head at the pd school said if down to that there keep him but he just to able than either class and as only have few spaces she needs make sure go where most needed

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MareeeyaDoloures · 28/05/2013 20:32

auditory processing?

TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 20:35

yes LEA did try but because it is now down to bone structure and other conditions there is nothing you can do for it , head used the argument against Lea who have dc that can be treated and course there is shortage of spaces ( mind i hate head of ms its based in we had many disagreement every time they do not implement his statement which is a lot

yes his hearing is not severe enough to affect his education

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MareeeyaDoloures · 28/05/2013 20:39

Star, just clocked your compliment Grin Grin
May I paraphrase the approach you, and others on here, taught me?
"Do, or do not, there is no try."

Yoda pic

TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 20:39

nope AP been ruled out i did ask .

every Dr that has met him is convinced he has underlying chromosome condition as he has a very other medical issues that dont affect education but affect him iykwm ,but none of the genetic testing found it yet .He is on the DDD study but that could take years

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TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 20:40

few not veryBlush

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TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 20:41

We do have the same issue with clubs to albe for sn but to disabled for ms clubs and when i say ok ill come then rock up in my wheelchair we don't get invited back

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StarlightMcKenzie · 28/05/2013 20:45

The situation sounds ridiculous.

But I'm with MD in the specified and quantified thing. Schools have to pay up to a certain amount for each child with a statement. They'll spend it because they have to, but they won't be happy being told what on, nor the additional funds.

Traditionally, parents fought for a 1:1 and the school got funding to then make up their own mind what to do. If it looked like it was for a 1:1, that class then got a TA the school didn't have to provide themselves, who may or may not spend time with the statemented child depending on the teachers priorities (i.e. the child's learning or tidy stock cupboard, which with well behaved children usually meant stock cupboard)

MareeeyaDoloures · 28/05/2013 20:46

So... could he be on the list of the special school, but (with his helper) attend half-days at the nearest primary mainstream.

I'm sure this is funding. Yes, they're scared, yes, they can't be a*d, yes, the nasty HT has probably badmouthed you to all her colleagues as being as the one parent to avoid like the plague, yes, in all fairness your ds is complex and they don't want to take a chance on failing in full view. But all of that is usually amenable to a suitable financial incentive

MareeeyaDoloures · 28/05/2013 20:50

And the law is very clear. The LA have to arrange a suitable education. Funding, finding a school, all that, is their problem, not yours. Mainstream, if wanted, being the default option, unless truly impossible. And home tuition is only suitable if it is a medical or social necessity.

TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 20:54

Nope we did try for this but he not meet critera to secondary even split placement with ms case worker tried for it

Nah head out of area and tbh I don't give a shit what they think or about the other kids in class /school my only concern is ds 3 but yes I agree its fact his statement is nailed down securely . But even dd school who I have a very good relationship with have said no and I fully understand why ( head rather than me hear officially told me himself )

And course other issue is ds will struggle in a class of 30 socially etc even with 1-1

He really needs class of 10 and then would not need 1-1 as such

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lougle · 28/05/2013 21:08

Treloar?

"Our key strength lies in our holistic, multi-disciplinary approach, which encompasses education, residential and pastoral care, therapy, medical support and independence training.

Currently 70% of our students have cerebral palsy. However, we welcome young people with a wide range of physical conditions, including those with associated sensory or cognitive difficulties. Around 90% of our students are wheelchair users and 40% have little or no natural speech. We also cater for students with degenerative or life-limiting conditions."

lougle · 28/05/2013 21:10

Scrap that...too far. Stupid google Blush

MareeeyaDoloures · 28/05/2013 21:12

Noddy guide to the law

MareeeyaDoloures · 28/05/2013 21:14

But honestly, given that a university could most likely meet these physical needs, surely they can find make a school who can.

Indie SS? Mainstream private with extra 1-1?

StarlightMcKenzie · 28/05/2013 21:15

Are you anywhere near the Portland Academy?

(I doubt it, hardly anyone is)

TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 21:16

LEA were fully supportive of move to the ss I wanted they was as surprised as me when school said no

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TheHumancatapult · 28/05/2013 21:36

Lougle that's very similar to one me and even LEA were wanting its the cognitive bit that caught us on the hop as he to cognitive able

Starlight no were over by Stansted airport

To be fair LEA are trying they keep upping the offer each time refused but It is probably statement but I'm not altering that took a little while to make sure I got . Physio /OT and speech etc all quantified and qualified in parts 2&3 as educational rathern than in 5/6 as other . Even SOS SEn had no advice to give and shocked its all in there

It's the schools playing hard nor the LEA for once . They even funded transport for assessment at school we all planned for without me even asking

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