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Another day of obnoxiousness for DS! :(

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SleepyJess · 16/05/2006 16:58

Warning: this is a whingy thread. I feel the need to put this as since I saw mention a couple of weeks ago that some people object to others' 'whinging on MN', (which I thought was rather judgemental because we can't all be smiley/happy all the time and why the hell shouldn't we be able to have a rant/receive advice from the majority who DO care?), I feel somewhat self-conscious about whinging. But people who only want smiley/happy probably shouldn't click on an SN thread anyway... or the depressed threads or whatever..

So [deep breath], DS, age nearly 6, Y1 in mainstream, has been really obnoxious again.. still won't do any work, only wants to play, kicked his one-to-one when she tried to insist he co-operate with some work. This has been going on nearly 2 weeks now and they seem a very long 2 weeks... (and probably more so for the one-to-one) but today she has written in his book that in her opinion DS 'needs a nursery environment where he can learn through play'. Now maybe it's just because I am pissed off [ah that's better, yes I'M PISSED OFF.. [ANGRY] [ANGRY]) and stressed with the situation in general (WHY can't he just behave! It's not as if he CAN'T.. he WAS doing so well, in spite of all the SN).. but isn't that something of a hasty judgement to make after only 2 weeks of bad behaviour, esp when just last month we all sat at his annual review in school and marvelled at his progress and ability to partake in adapted versions of what all the rest of the class were doing.. moreover was acheiving, in some areas (esp practical maths) at something like an appropriate level for his age? And suddenly he needs a nursery environment???!

I also asked in the book y/day if we could come in a discuss the situation with whoever (of the appropriate staff) if available, eg class teacher, one-to-one, Senco(s).. not all of them, obviously, but one or ANY of them! All I get is a message back saying 'if you want to see the Senco it will have to be after half term...' !

Mrs D, the one-to-one has been great all the while Alex was co-operating.. now suddenly, I am getting some very negative vibes.. or maybe I am just over reacting. Am I over reacting?

I had also written several messages asking if they might contact the outreach worker from a local special school who is there to advise in these situations (and already has previously). No response to these questions.. so y/day I phoned her myself and left a message.. wrote that in his book (that I was waiting for her to get back to me) and I am wondering whether school think that that was the wrong thing for me to do... but I had been told by the Outreach lady that I could ring any time I had concerns... and school hadn't done it!!

I just feel so Angry, probably more at 'the situation' than anyone specific. And I am imagining, more than knowing that they are all thinking he should be in special school (bugger Radio bloody 5). If he needs special school, he needs special school.. his social abilities were the reason we tried mainstream in the first place and all his social 'graces' seem to have gone to hell anyway!... but surely we shouldn't be thinking along these lines after just 2 weeks of obnoxiousness??

Arrrrrggh..

Thank you for the vent.. and sorry for the whinge (except I'm not... Wink)

Bloody kids.

Bloody schools.

Pah!!

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2shoes · 16/05/2006 17:28

sorry can't offer any advise as not my "field" if you know what I mean(dd has cp) but
DON'T YOU DARE APOLOGISE FOR WHINGING
surely that is what we are here for to support during the good and the bad. sadly with sn the good is sometimes in short supply.
I do hope someone comes on and can help
XXXX

suejonez · 16/05/2006 17:32

Don't all children go through difficult phases? Not a reason to give accept negative vibes just yet thats a bit premature isn't it.

No advice really, just want to say "there, there" and nod sympathetically.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/05/2006 17:44

Sleepyjess

Bloody school!!. You are being mucked about.

Would suggest you have words with IPSEA if you haven't already done so. They are very good at helping parents get their children the education they need. www.ipsea.org.uk is the web address.

To my mind some schools act as their own fiefdom so you may have put them out a bit by asking them (nicely of course) to do something for you.

Does your son have a Statement in place?. If he needed a special needs school then a statement would be needed (I will stand corrected on this point if someone knows any different). If he hasn't got a statement how much support per week is he getting and is it consistently applied?

SleepyJess · 16/05/2006 18:05

Hi.. thanks guys :)

2shoes Alex has cp too.. although not a 'straightforward' case, if there is such a thing (probably not).

Yes he has a statement.. a very LONG one :).. just being updated following recent review to include the possibility of outreach so that he can, if nec. go into the special school for part of the week in the future (but we were thinking towards Y6, assuming he would continue to thrive educationally in the situation he is in.. he is only y1 now). He gets constant one-to-one provision at school.. he needs it no question. He is very high maintenance and I sometimes think (at times like this) "what the hell is he doing at mainstream?".. but it was working.. it honestly was, and I don't know what, if anything, has gone wrong.. and, having cooled off a bit from earlier, primarily, I am feeling 'unsupported' by the school. Part of problem is that he goes on transport so I am not in school often and I suppose it can be hard to portray exactly what you mean in those home/school books.. things can get misinterpreted. But I did at least expect them to be more forthcoming about my suggestion that DH and I come in to discuss the situation.

Sigh.

I think I will phone tomorrow and try to get past the long suffering receptionists.

Another thing.. last week, his one-to-one was 'utilised' for SATS cover (Y2) leaving DS entirely without any one to one, for 3 out of the 5 mornings of last week!! This can't be right can it? (The 'behaviour' started before this happened so I can't blame this.. although I'm sure it didn't help.) I was so stressed about a number of things last week that I kind of let it go.. I did complain a bit when I first found out, which was only because I take him in myself after Riding For The Disabled on a Mon am... and asked where Mrs D was..

His teacher was tad stressed (as well she might be.. it's really really not possible to take care of DS's needs as well as TEACH 22 others!!!!) so I said I would ask to speak to someone on the way out. I couldn't speak to anyone but one of the receptionists.. but while we were talking the Acting Head walked past. The receptionist actually stopped her and asked her if SHE was helping with SATS too.. and she said yes and carried on walking.. and it was only afterwards that I thought that as (acting) Head, she really should have at least shown an interest in a parent who was OBVIOUSLY expressing a concern about something, shouldn't she??

As I said I just let it go at the time...

I really really didn't want there to have to be battles with school.. and it's been ok until now. We had had battles getting every other provision that DS is entitled to. I could do without this. :( I know I am not kidding myself in that he has SO much potential..I don't want it all to go pear shaped now.

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suejonez · 16/05/2006 18:11

Well if it has been working for him at some point then it obviously CAN work - surely his one-to-one would recognise that??

Sorry, hopelessly unqualified to help you with this. Will saying "there there" again help Blush or should I shut up now?

SleepyJess · 16/05/2006 18:17

"there there" is good Sue.. it comes under heading of 'support' :) :)

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suejonez · 16/05/2006 18:19

Excellent Grin

There, there SleepyJess don't you worry your pretty little head about it tonight, you can sort it all out tomorrow when it will all seem much more manageable.

SleepyJess · 16/05/2006 18:20

Grin And flattery too :)

[SJ basks}

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2shoes · 16/05/2006 22:10

Sorry didn't realise he had cp.
I have just been through a bad patch with dd. she is in a very good special school but we still have problems.
what area do you live in?

suejonez · 17/05/2006 10:04

So SleepyJess, does it seem more manageable this morning? Or is another of my great sayings to be consigned to the dustbin?

coppertop · 17/05/2006 10:13

Who on earth made that comment about so-called "whingeing threads" on SN??? Shock I'm tempted to start hundreds of the bloody things just to piss them off even more.

The school's attitude sounds crap IMHO. They can't just take away a child's one-to-one to help out with bloody exams FFS! Makes you wonder what else they've been doing and whether it has contributed to your ds having further problems at school.

Good on you for contacting the outreach team.

suejonez · 17/05/2006 11:24

I think there's been a couple of comments about whinging not necesasrily specific to SN. One I saw was someone complaining about her DH's ex. Why not whinge, I do it sometimes to certain friends, I don't expect them to solve any of my problems, I just want someone to be sympathetic. Sometimes I'm even being unreasonable but I still want someone to be kind to me and tell me that other people are horrid and I am nice.

I don't see why MN would be any different - sometimes you want good advice, sometimes a laugh, sometimes a whinge

SleepyJess · 17/05/2006 14:08

It was on one of the so-called 'clique' threads Coppertop (not that I even believe in cliques.. if you want to be 'popular' it's about what you post and how much you post..so there's one genuine example of uneccessary whinging! Grin) Think it was 'Mners you'd like to meet'.. and someone said 'not one of the ones that come on here and just whinge..'

It was a lighthearted thread but every time I have wanted advice or support since then, I have found myself thinking 'does this constitute whinging and will it piss everyone off??!'

(And yesterday I felt like whinging about that, lol!.. just the mood I was in.. Grin)

This morning Alex's one-to-one actually rang (!) and spoke to DH (I was out) and she said they are trying something new.. which involves 5 minutes of work, followed by 5 minutes of play.. or something he chooses.. and making sure he understands that the play follows the work. She said it seemed to be working so far.. but it was only ten am at the time, lol. I am just glad that they are trying something.. It's not that I don't want them to tell it as it is in his home/school book.. but when the messages, day after day say "Alex was really dreadful today.. " and end with "not sure how to deal with this.." it's hard to feel positive about them.

And if Mrs D (one to one) gets taken away for something again I am going to hit the roof albeit in a controlled manner! It's not on is it? She is funded for Alex surely.. it's all there in his statement. (Even if she did work there anyway..)

Thanks for the support guys. Will keep you posted.

SJ x

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coppertop · 18/05/2006 06:39

Maybe they've learned their lesson (excuse the pun) and have found out just what can happen when they get a bit too complacent about supporting your ds. I think sometimes it's easy to fall into the trap (and I do this myself) of thinking "X is doing so well that he/she obviously doesn't need this level of support all the time." Of course once you take the support away X's behaviour deteriorates.

Fingers crossed that the new strategy works. :)

I fully agree with that last post, suejonez. Sometimes I want a good laugh but other times I just want to rant and whinge. Looks like I managed the rant part yesterday. Blush

Whingers unite! :o

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