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Deferring/holding back a year

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boobybum · 20/04/2013 00:46

Evening all,

I was just wondering if anyone had managed to get their child 'put back' a year at school?

Our DS is due to start reception in September but due to the fact he is an August baby and has autism, we would really prefer that he goes into school nursery instead as we just feel he isn't ready for school yet and the extra year could make a lot if difference. We would want him to be permenantly held back, ie we don't want them to try and make him skip reception and go straight into year one.

We are in the process of getting his statement so what I would really like is some good arguments/evidence to help support this.

Thank you in advance.

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seaweed74 · 20/04/2013 07:20

Not sure how much help this will be to you as we're in Scotland.

Dd1 is a January baby and here Jan/Feb babies would be youngest in a year group. The council is legally required to provide an additional year of preschool education if parents wish to defer their children and delay entry to school. Children born between Sept and Dec could apply for a deferral but the council isn't obliged by law to fund an additional year.

Dd1 has autism and one of my arguments for deferral was to give her a chance to build her basic skills eg manage stairs, self feeding with a spoon, possibly toilet train, so that there would be a better chance of her being able to attend mainstream with support. Dd also was not attending a full nursery session (only there for 2hrs not 2 1/2)at the time of application for deferral and has 1:1 support as otherwise she would not be able to access the facilities to support her learning experience.

I'm sure someone with more knowledge will be along but maybe something above helps.

thesecretmusicteacher · 20/04/2013 19:19

It can be done. Search education for discussions between me and a poster called tiggytape

messmonster · 20/04/2013 21:03

Hi booby we've done this for my DD. She's starting this coming September but ought to have started last September.

We made a case to our LA Ed Psych and she then supported our request. We also got the school we wanted her to attend (our village school where our DS attends) onside and they supported the deferral.

We also provided a clear plan of what we wanted to work on in the deferred year and how that would help her at school.

This worked for us in the end but the initial conversations with our LA SEN Officer were not promising - there's definitely a preference not to do this.

messmonster · 20/04/2013 21:10

similar thread which might be useful....

lougle · 20/04/2013 21:18

The new School Admissions Code makes allowances for this. It's at the discretion of the LA/school, but allows for complete deferral/advancement rather than deferring and skipping a year or advancing then repeating a year.

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 20/04/2013 23:10

I think an August child with SN could really benefit from deferring and staying back a year. Any 'social' issues that LAs come up with as a reason not to do this wouldn't really matter to a DC with ASD. (Such as teasing for being older than everyone else, small issue in the grand scheme of things and only 1 month older than the rest, anyway.)

You need to get this written in to his statement as a recommendation from the EP or autism outreach etc. It used to be a lot easier to arrange before the infant class sizes were set to 30, even without a statement, but if you get it written in, you should be fine.

schobe · 21/04/2013 09:12

We've just got DS put back a year and he has a May birthday.

Our LA contact told us that it is at the school's discretion (formally the governors'). So getting the school onside would be the most important thing if that is the case (have no idea if true but they were very clear about it).

If you're going to encounter resistance though I guess, as always, it's about evidence collection. Comparing the stage he is at and the demands of Y1 and showing that his needs would not be met where they would in reception.....somehow!

SingySongy · 21/04/2013 09:49

I don't know the answer to this, but do you know what happens at the other end of the school career? Ie, when your child hits sixteen, but is at the end of year 10, rather than year 11, would they be allowed to continue for the extra year?

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 21/04/2013 10:55

DC have to stay on until 18 these days and can stay up until 19. The worst that might happen is that they might only get 2 years post GSCE rather than a possible 3.

thesecretmusicteacher · 21/04/2013 16:05

The fundamental point for me is that good teachers can adjust the curriculum but they cannot change the character of the peer group. A child with mild ASD may be ready to make friends but the friends need to be developmental peers not age peers..... otherwise it's more like making sibling relationships with older/wiser kids (still valuable but not the same thing).

From what I understand you need to do as Lougle says and start from (and stick to) the admissions code itself rather than asking the open question "can we defer?".

BLISS (premature babies charity) is currently campaigning for the guidance that accompanies the Admissions Code to be revised and this has relevance to kids with developmental issues also.

boobybum · 22/04/2013 10:12

Thank you all for your replies. We are meeting with the Ed Psych next week so will be trying to get her on board. Although given the fact that she has said DS will never catch up (not why we want to delay school entry anyway) and that she doesn't see the point in doing cognitive assessments (as in her opinion IQ never changes) I won't hold my breath!

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Toni27 · 23/04/2013 09:23

Good luck. As my ds has his birthday in march I was told that he cannot be put back a year. Getting advice from a solicitor now to see if this is the case, I can't believe they won't let him start school a year late just because his birthday is not in the summer. He has asd, limited vocab, sensory issues and is still in nappies. Just found out he has been granted 21.5 hours support out of 36 and not all one to one, I'm absolutely fuming about it and am going to start pushing for him to start a year late ie sept 2014 even if it means getting legal people involved.

Tiggywunkle · 03/05/2013 17:43

I am going through a similar situation.
We recently moved from one LEA which welcomed us keeping our DS back a school year (July baby) and then him moving up each year with his new peer group. Our new LEA are totally anti it - as are the schools etc. Even parent partnership doesn't think we have a hope :

But yet when you speak to individuals eg his paediatrician and Ed psych, they are all for it. So I am trying to get each individual to say their piece and hopefully it will all come together for DS (not) starting school next Sept (but the year after). Apparently having the paediatrician on board is a big plus. Parent Partnership said there's some part of the SEN code of conduct where it says in an ideal world all children should stay in their peer group so out LEA keep quoting this and saying that they are following good practice! I keep arguing that one year would make a big difference developmentally, and I will keep on doing so. He's only 6 weeks older than some of his peers in the year below.

Meanwhile apparently there is no legal age for a child leaving primary school. However it would need writing into a statement that the child would stay with their peer group into secondary school, or you could find they skip a year at 11 and go into the second year of secondary school. Equally apparently there is no funding for the child to do the last year in school ie at 17, but I just argued that we will talk about that in 14 years time when the world is a different place!! He's not going to be academically brilliant so its not a major worry of mine!

MummytoMog · 03/05/2013 19:12

We were told no as well. DD was born at the end of August, but doesn't actually have a diagnosis, so probably a less strong case.

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