Vaccination MMR

[Stephanie16]

My baby is going to be 1 in a couple of months and I just want opinion from people whether they think the vaccination has anything to do with children having autism or adhd after. Got one child who is in the process of getting assess and just worried about whether the vaccination contribute to this. Many thanks for replying.

Notme, whilst it is sensible and responsible to have reasons for not vaccinating, there is no law that states this must be so. You can have a silly reason, or no reason, and you are not required to ever give one.

I started trying to explain to our vac nurse, but it was clear she didn't understand a thing I was saying, nor was she able to answer some pretty basic questions. She wanted a note that showed I understood the risks of not vaccinating , so I wrote down simple that my children's vaccination programme has been suspended for the time being but will be constantly reviewed and that I woukd contact her if I decided to continue.

Dd3 had single measles and rubella vaccines, we also cant get mumps vax at the moment.

She had severe reactions to all her baby jabs even though I delayed them.

My Gp was very supportive but others in the practice were not.

She was already showing signs of Asd at 12 months so there was no way I could risk more vaccines.

The MMR issue has been rumbling around for years and years it is never going to go away. You have to go with your gut instinct.

Good luck

I know these threads are mainly based on MMR, but I also know autism mums who have even avoided giving their kids all of the baby DTP jabs

Anyone who saw sat night's harrowing comic relief film, showing a child in Africa dying from lockjaw because kids aren't given tetanus jabs out there, would surely vaccinate?

Not meaning to upset anyone, I just genuinely don't understand how some mums see life-saving jabs like this as the enemy, rather than the terrible diseases

I haven't given my younger kids any jabs. I know my family history and I know what happened to ds1.

You can't get a single tetanus jab very easily these days and there's no way I'm giving 4 other jabs at the same time just so they can have tetanus protection. Especially when we live in a city. I'm aware of what a tetanus wound l

Looks like - or rather a round that is high risk if tetanus and would seek antibodies if the boys had one if those

Like most adults I am out of date with tetanus boosters myself so would go the same if I had a tetanus type wound.

And diphtheria, polio, meningitis? I am not being inflammatory, trying to understand

Well given our family history my children are at higher risk of regression than a typical child - from immune system events such as vaccination. Ds1 is severely autistic, non verbal as a teenager, will require 24 hour care for the rest of his life. He will not get married, he will never leave the house alone. He was 'normal' until his regression. There is no other autism in the huge extended family but there are plenty of life changing immune events

Their risk of polio and diphtheria is around zero (we can't travel far abroad as we can't take ds1 on a plane). The risk of meningitis for most people is very low - it's very much an individual susceptibility. If one of the boys is high risk then their riskiest time would be in their late teens away at university. They can arrange a vaccination then if they want (which is probably more use than doing it now, mid childhood when they're the wrong age to be even considered at risk).

When I though I had a child at average risk from vaccinations I vaccinated. Now I know I don't so I have to be convinced of the benefits of the vaccination before I will do so.

Ok, thanks

My son is of similar severity, but the autism phenotype (not necessarily just autism itself) is throughout our family and it is clearly genetic

If it was phenotypic autism I would vaccinate. But in his case it seems to be very clearly linked to his immune system. We seem to do what I describe simply as weird inflammatory responses to normal immune activations.

And the trouble with that is you don't just risk autism you risk lots of other PITA life changing/shortening conditions as well. Of course even without vaccination you don't remove the risk but I'm not happy to run a risk if the risk from the disease isn't high because they're unlikely to get it or the illness isn't that bad usually. Fwiw the 2 I am most on the fence about is tetanus and measles and they may be given at some stage if I can find a private clinic I'm happy with and can actually get to.